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Oldspice

Senior Member
I still use Vista for Autodesk, works fine for me:tongue:
 

JoeyB

Go on, tilt your head!
Not sure what all the fuss is about... The start menu has just been given a steriod injection which will benefit mobile device users... Other than that it has all the same functionality in desktop mode.

I need a cheap way to get XP off one of my machines, so the £24.99 Win8 upgrade path will do the job for me. It won't go anything else just yet, mind.
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
when windows 7 came out everybody anmd there dog said they designed it. haven't heard anybody claim windows 8 yet. we too need a new desktop and am looking at a nice acer with win 7 on for a lot less than i would have paid a month ago
 

MrJamie

Oaf on a Bike
Being serious, I saw the beta in action a lot and I did like the performance of it. What ended up in the final layout is a bit strange but there you go. It'll evolve. I won't be buying it though.

Whatever you say about windows people will say the same things. Much of the time it depends on the timings of launch, length until replacements and computer advancements during that time. XP was not regarded as superduper reliable when it launched at all, that was a total myth. It acquired this status for the simple reason that the length between XP and Vista was so vast that it had various service packs and development and it coincided with very dramatic CPU advancements and a few other things. Vista was worse than XP but it got a lot of its reputation because imbeciles were putting it in machines there weren't really ideal to run it. Now some of that is microsoft's fault but some of it is the idiots that built these machines and packaged them deliberately knowing how bad they'd be.
Yeah, the reviews by people always tend to be polarised too an OS is either awesome or terrible, rarely inbetween and often gets decided by how well the early release goes and how resistant people are to change. My understanding is that the latter versions of Vista with its servicepacks were actually good, but like you say the early versions had compatibility issues compounded by it being installed as standard on budget machines that werent upto it - my friend bought an acer laptop with 500mb of ram and it was next to useless. Even the beloved XP was terrible when it was first launched, frequenty security problems and compatibility issues IME.

Im still unsure if i should upgrade to windows 8, it was inevitable it would be disliked after the popularity of win7. Theres been that trend of each OS alternating between awesome and terrible in peoples eyes arguably back to 3.1(1) > 95 > 98 > ME > XP > Vista > Win7 > Win 8. My understanding is that you dont have to use Metro, just stay in desktop mode and use the quicksearch in place of the start bar and your commonly used apps should be shortcut/pinned anyway. I think the issue is most people used win7 like they did XP, but should have been pinning apps, launching things from the search rather than trawling through programs, otherwise the jump away from a start bar wouldnt be so harsh. I might upgrade my XP machine and see how it goes :smile:
 
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Clinging on tightly
Location
Over the Hill
Well my trawling through machines has thrown this up

http://www.medion.com/gb/prod/MEDION®+AKOYA®+P5363+E+(MD8318)/310016298

Apparently max RAM is 8GB. What limits RAM size? Is this machine any good for the price?
 

JoeyB

Go on, tilt your head!

Scruffmonster

Über Member
Location
London/Kent
Ah righty ho all. I think you guys have confirmed what I suspected. Windows 7 seems to be the answer.

I'm only buying a new PC as my old one is 11-12 years old and no longer plays nicely on the internet. More recently either the hardware or the driver that connects it to the outside world has failed. I've taken that as a "sign". It has XP on it and I've always found it OK. This laptop I'm using at the moment has Vista on it. My daughter lost patience with it and abandoned it. She got another with 7 on it and I haven't heard a grumble......

Get a Mac...

A 3 Year Old one on Gumtree/eBay will be a better investment than a new windows machine.
 

Scruffmonster

Über Member
Location
London/Kent
I was wondering about a Mac. Want to fly a simulator tho'. Not sure if it's compatible........

A quick google would find that out quickly enough.

People can debate Mac Vs Windows*, personally I feel there's no contest.

For all of the Mac/Windows debates out there, there's never really any that discuss operating systems. They work. I can just as easily use a 10 year old iMac as a 2013 MacBook Air. The principles remain essentially the same, and things evolve sensibly rather than go through a revolution every 3 years.

Those are my thoughts.

* = I say Windows. A savvy techy running something other than windows on a great spec PC will claim that it out-performs a Mac for 50% of the outlay... which is probably true but kind of misses the point. I assumed from your question that we're talking out of the box simplicity.
 
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