Woman motorist failed driving test for splashing pedestrian

[Night Train]

reading between the lines, i doubt this woman was as good as she thought,

I dont think any driver is as good as they think they are, myself included. Some are just a little less deluded about it then others.

 

[Old Walrus]

From memory the offence she committed was Driving Without Consideration For Other Road Users, the Road Traffic manual gave soaking a pedestrian as one of the examples. I suppose soaking the ped could constitute non-permanent criminal damage if it was argued the driver was reckless in her actions. I feel it would involve a lot of paperwork for very little outcome!

 

[domtyler]

From memory the offence she committed was Driving Without Consideration For Other Road Users, the Road Traffic manual gave soaking a pedestrian as one of the examples. I suppose soaking the ped could constitute non-permanent criminal damage if it was argued the driver was reckless in her actions. I feel it would involve a lot of paperwork for very little outcome!

Why would it be non-permanent? He would most likely be carrying a mobile and probably other electronic equipment. A good suit is not going to take kindly to being drenched in filthy, oily, road puddle water either. His leather briefcase would not come through this experience unscathed either and still look like new.

She should thank herself lucky she has not been hit with a bill for three or four grand.

 

[buggi]

Slightly off topic, but still along the same lines of stupidity, I was chatting to a colleague on the phone this morning about a job, when he told me he was on jury service all week ( I'll never fathom why the Govt. decided it was OK for serving Police Officers to serve on a jury) I mean, stands to reason, from personal experience knowing how hard we have to work to get the CPS to take a job to court, especially Crown Court, if your in the dock, you're probably guilty, after all a bunch of lawyers have looked a the available evidence and have advised a charge.

Anyway I digress, so colleague tells me he has a day off as the jury has been sworn in, but on the previous day, one of the prospective jurors an apparently attractive blonde was overheard discussing her feelings about the case they were about to go into when she said she was going to go with the most attractive lawyers view, regardless of whether he was the prosecution or defence, as she really wasn't that worried as long as the lawyer was fit!

FFS, no wonder the country is in the stae it is.

haha, for the same reasons as first paragraph above i told my mate when she did jury service to think very hard before she found someone not guilty because if they are in the dock they normally are! (i have also worked in the system). she then came back to me and said she found him not guilty because she fancied him

 

[ComedyPilot]

Slightly off topic, but still along the same lines of stupidity, I was chatting to a colleague on the phone this morning about a job, when he told me he was on jury service all week ( I'll never fathom why the Govt. decided it was OK for serving Police Officers to serve on a jury) I mean, stands to reason, from personal experience knowing how hard we have to work to get the CPS to take a job to court, especially Crown Court, if your in the dock, you're probably guilty, after all a bunch of lawyers have looked a the available evidence and have advised a charge.

Anyway I digress, so colleague tells me he has a day off as the jury has been sworn in, but on the previous day, one of the prospective jurors an apparently attractive blonde was overheard discussing her feelings about the case they were about to go into when she said she was going to go with the most attractive lawyers view, regardless of whether he was the prosecution or defence, as she really wasn't that worried as long as the lawyer was fit!

FFS, no wonder the country is in the stae it is.

Sadly that is not unique. I sat in awe and watched a jury sworn in on a MURDER trial, and only 4 of the 12 jurors swore in correctly. Some said the oath wrong and 5 of them held the bible in the wrong hand, despite CLEAR instruction from the usher on how to hold it. These people were then tasked with coming to a decision on a MURDER trial. No wonder so many career criminals go for trial, their briefs will more than likely have advised them of juror stupidity having a possible favourable influence on the outcome.

 

[marinyork]

Sadly that is not unique. I sat in awe and watched a jury sworn in on a MURDER trial, and only 4 of the 12 jurors swore in correctly. Some said the oath wrong and 5 of them held the bible in the wrong hand, despite CLEAR instruction from the usher on how to hold it. These people were then tasked with coming to a decision on a MURDER trial. No wonder so many career criminals go for trial, their briefs will more than likely have advised them of juror stupidity having a possible favourable influence on the outcome.

We actually use bibles?

 

[ComedyPilot]

The people on the jury all elected to use the bible.

 

[bonj2]

I've always wondered about that. What if you're an atheist, the bible isn't going to mean much to you. And what if you're a muslim, do they have to swear on the bible instead? If they get to use a koran instead, can it not just be a free-for-all? Could I not just bring in a copy of cycling plus in and swear on that? Is there an official list of acceptable bibles somewhere?

 

[rich p]

Slightly off topic, but still along the same lines of stupidity, I was chatting to a colleague on the phone this morning about a job, when he told me he was on jury service all week ( I'll never fathom why the Govt. decided it was OK for serving Police Officers to serve on a jury) I mean, stands to reason, from personal experience knowing how hard we have to work to get the CPS to take a job to court, especially Crown Court, if your in the dock, you're probably guilty, after all a bunch of lawyers have looked a the available evidence and have advised a charge.

Anyway I digress, so colleague tells me he has a day off as the jury has been sworn in, but on the previous day, one of the prospective jurors an apparently attractive blonde was overheard discussing her feelings about the case they were about to go into when she said she was going to go with the most attractive lawyers view, regardless of whether he was the prosecution or defence, as she really wasn't that worried as long as the lawyer was fit!

FFS, no wonder the country is in the stae it is.

You can seriously say that without irony after admitting that policemen would vote someone guilty because they're in the dock! God help us.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

You can swear on the Bible or take some non-religious alternative. I think it's called affirming.

Surely it makes no difference what anyone swears on? I mean, in most court cases one party or the other must be lying, surely, and they've all sworn on something.

 

[col]

You can seriously say that without irony after admitting that policemen would vote someone guilty because they're in the dock! God help us.

I was shocked to hear that too,very worrying,also i think the swearing on the bible bit is a bit of a joke really,probably just a custom over the years eh?

 

[col]

A mate of mine was on a jury last year where a fellow juror voted guilty because the accused "had that look about him".

No wonder some of the lucky ones,who prove their innocence are getting paid large sums for miscarraiges of justice,what a seriously worrying state.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

I don't know why anyone is surprised about the way juries think. There were enough people here who thought the McCanns murdered their daughter because, "There is something fishy about them".

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Good point. I remember that too.

 

[Fnaar]

I don't know why anyone is surprised about the way juries think. There were enough people here who thought the McCanns murdered their daughter because, "There is something fishy about them".

My dear old Mum (RIP) was called for jury service... telling us (as she wasn't meant to) about the burglary case she'd seen, she said "I could tell he was guilty as soon as I saw him" ... gawd rest her soul and all that, but she should never have been let on a jury!