Yet another needless death caused by phone use.

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ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Minimum £1000 fine and driving ban would be a start.
 

Slick

Guru
We already have the technology that shuts a phone down if it senses we ate travelling. Obviously doesn't work for everyone, but small price to pay.
 

Jameshow

Veteran
We already have the technology that shuts a phone down if it senses we ate travelling. Obviously doesn't work for everyone, but small price to pay.

What's the app?

Powering off would be a pain but shut off use would be sensible?
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
So many reasons this man and his solicitor should go to prison. The guy even blamed his son. The solicitor blamed the rider for the clothes she was wearing. Yet the evidence was obvious. He was using his phone. He was not man enough to admit it. They tried every trick to get out of it.

Something needs to be done to stop hand held phones being used in cars.
 

Oldhippy

Cynical idealist
Sell all the persons assets to compensate the family, 5 years inside and permanently banned from driving and ever owning a car.
 

mustang1

Guru
Location
London, UK
Design such a system:

When driving a car, there must be a connection between car and phone otherwise engine won't start.

Phone will not make any voice calls, all text messaging functions will be stopped, while car is in motion. Only maps will be displayed.
 
Meanwhile, a former police officer and automotive engineer told Swansea Crown Court the crash happened on a busy, unlit highway and it was "asking a lot" for drivers to realise there was a "bike on a trunk road at night".

From the below link on the same story.:angry:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63319484
Odd how concepts of time vary, depending on who has done what, when and where.

Half past six in the evening isn't what most normal people would refer to as 'at night' and in any case, since when was use of the public highway by those who use it as of right (pedestrians, riders of horses and cycles and horse-drawn vehicles) and not merely by permission or licence, limited to specific periods during each 24 hour period?

Perhaps tin-cans-on-wheels are the things that should be restricted on roads ... especially 'at night' if 'night' includes most normal people's rush hour homewards ... as it seems to for the 'former police officer' quoted above.
 

Solocle

Über Member
Location
Poole
Odd how concepts of time vary, depending on who has done what, when and where.

Half past six in the evening isn't what most normal people would refer to as 'at night' and in any case, since when was use of the public highway by those who use it as of right (pedestrians, riders of horses and cycles and horse-drawn vehicles) and not merely by permission or licence, limited to specific periods during each 24 hour period?

Perhaps tin-cans-on-wheels are the things that should be restricted on roads ... especially 'at night' if 'night' includes most normal people's rush hour homewards ... as it seems to for the 'former police officer' quoted above.

Especially as "at night" - in this instance, 3am, is one of the times I will happily use trunk roads.

With the low amount of traffic, you have good sight lines, and with good lights, you can be seen about a mile away on a big trunk dual carriageway.

Sure, there's less traffic on minor roads, but what traffic there is might be racing around a blind bend... Perhaps the biggest risk is tw@ing yourself with a pothole, though.
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Nice direct route, and butter smooth.

Whereas at lunchtime on a Sunday, I avoided that stretch of road:
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steveindenmark

Legendary Member
Meanwhile, a former police officer and automotive engineer told Swansea Crown Court the crash happened on a busy, unlit highway and it was "asking a lot" for drivers to realise there was a "bike on a trunk road at night".

From the below link on the same story.:angry:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63319484

I assume he was giving evidence for the accused. Its a ridiculous statement to make. Its a road. You should be expecting the unexpected all the time. Bikes are allowed on roads. How can that be unexpected?
 
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