Zombie Apocalypse

[jonny jeez]

Yeah, it's sourced from the puffer fish.

Nah, that's the sushi thing, you're mixing two mythologies

 

[Mr Phoebus]

Nah, that's the sushi thing, you're mixing two mythologies

Pufferfish provide fugu (sushi) and the toxin (tetrodotoxin) for turning people into a zombie like state.


Read and learn...

Pufferfish can be lethal if not served properly. Puffer poisoning usually results from consumption of incorrectly prepared puffer soup, fugu chiri, or occasionally from raw puffer meat, sashimi fugu. While chiri is much more likely to cause death, sashimi fugu often causes intoxication, light-headedness, and numbness of the lips, and is often eaten for this reason. Puffer's (tetrodotoxin) poisoning deadens the tongue and lips, and induces dizziness and vomiting, followed by numbness and prickling over the body, rapid heart rate, decreased blood pressure, and muscle paralysis. The toxin paralyzes diaphragm muscles and stops the person who has ingested it from breathing. People who live longer than 24 hours typically survive, although possibly after a coma lasting several days. Some people claim to have remained fully conscious throughout the coma, and can often recount events that occurred while they were supposedly unconscious.[citation needed] The paralysis reduces oxygen demands of the body dramatically, but because the toxin does not cross the blood-brain barrier, neural activity in the brain and from the eyes and ears are generally intact. In Voodoo, puffer's poison must be part of the mixture given to the victim to make them a "zombie", most likely because the paralysis and pseudo-comatose effect simulate the death portion of traditional zombie creation.[5]

 

[jonny jeez]

Pufferfish provide fugu (sushi) and the toxin (tetrodotoxin) for turning people into a zombie like state.


Read and learn...

Pufferfish can be lethal if not served properly. Puffer poisoning usually results from consumption of incorrectly prepared puffer soup, fugu chiri, or occasionally from raw puffer meat, sashimi fugu. While chiri is much more likely to cause death, sashimi fugu often causes intoxication, light-headedness, and numbness of the lips, and is often eaten for this reason. Puffer's (tetrodotoxin) poisoning deadens the tongue and lips, and induces dizziness and vomiting, followed by numbness and prickling over the body, rapid heart rate, decreased blood pressure, and muscle paralysis. The toxin paralyzes diaphragm muscles and stops the person who has ingested it from breathing. People who live longer than 24 hours typically survive, although possibly after a coma lasting several days. Some people claim to have remained fully conscious throughout the coma, and can often recount events that occurred while they were supposedly unconscious.[citation needed] The paralysis reduces oxygen demands of the body dramatically, but because the toxin does not cross the blood-brain barrier, neural activity in the brain and from the eyes and ears are generally intact. In Voodoo, puffer's poison must be part of the mixture given to the victim to make them a "zombie", most likely because the paralysis and pseudo-comatose effect simulate the death portion of traditional zombie creation.[5]

you made that up...I need links...it means nothing without links!!

 

[Mr Phoebus]

you made that up...I need links...it means nothing without links!!

Now you're being spoilt.

 

[Ravenbait]

Although zombie mythology goes waaaaay further back than that. There are elements of zombieism in western pagan religeons a few centuries ago, iirc. The whole Haiti Voodoo religeon is deeply misunderstood due to western witchcraft ideas having been foisted in its place.. etc.

Er... What?

Which particular western pagan religions would these be? And which particular version of western Witchcraft?

The modern zombie mythos owes far more to schlock horror B movies leaning on sensationalist propaganda than anything to do with any form of religion at all.

Sam (although you might want to check out The Serpent and the Rainbow)

 

[jonny jeez]

Now you're being spoilt.

Pfft that's just wiki...anyone can make stuff up on wiki. you need a realiable source for info, like

this

 

[Mr Phoebus]

Pfft that's just wiki...anyone can make stuff up on wiki. you need a realiable source for info, like

this

Ave it!





Now behave yourself.

 

[jonny jeez]

Ave it!





Now behave yourself.

Damn...Who can argue with Mr Fry.

I am bested.

 

[Mr Phoebus]

Damn...Who can argue with Mr Fry.

I am bested.

Phew! *mops brow*

 

[jonny jeez]

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Tetrodotoxin

Even the Wiki writers can't agree:




Repeat after me 100 times: "Wikipedia is not a definitive source..."
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which is why I always refer to Homer or Fry

 

[downfader]

Er... What?

Which particular western pagan religions would these be? And which particular version of western Witchcraft?

The modern zombie mythos owes far more to schlock horror B movies leaning on sensationalist propaganda than anything to do with any form of religion at all.

Sam (although you might want to check out The Serpent and the Rainbow)

Zombieism is the raising of the dead, not the eating of the flesh bit. Yes modern zombie mythos is based around the films (cannibal italian movies, 60s and 70s Americana such as Romero, and in some very small extent the Hammer films).

The zombie myth from Haiti was about punishing those who have "wronged" or crossed you and forcing them in to a life of subservience and slavery. IIRC it is a west african tradition.

The raising the dead and slavery bit also comes from old Roman and Greek myths. Hades, the God, had the power of the dead. The dead sometimes escaped and wandered the earth in the early myths. The Easter ressurection is stolen from the old Roman Divus Iulius festival. (Had to look up the latin name)

 

[Ravenbait]

I'd argue that it would be a mistake to conflate necromancy or the raising of the dead with zombies. Raising of the dead is a pretty broad category, covering everything from dubious spiritualist practices and sorcery to religions resurrection, as you mention. Zombies carry with them a specific set of baggage to do with loss of will and self-agency for specific means using specific ritual. I don't think you can lump them all together in one pot and say it's all zombie-related, any more than you could say that Mithraism and Christianity are the same thing because they have some of the same themes.

Sam