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JuhaL
Guru
Oh, i see. You can't barely wait next handicap event, then it's time to make your move
@<Tommy> , @berty bassett - new zwift kit for Thursday?
(Sadly I don't think actually a Zwift option!)
(Sadly I don't think actually a Zwift option!)
Do I get the same time as Michael if I can make it?
mjd1988
Guru
Do I get the same time as Michael if I can make it?
You'll regret that if I'm still dosed tomorrow!
I was planning on sitting on your wheel for the whole race .... I'd be happy with 2nd place
Are you applying for an injury related time bonus? I may have to delegate that sort of decision to the official excuse police..... @<Tommy>Do I get the same time as Michael if I can make it?
oh bugger
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
oh bugger
😄
I feel like my work here is done
Carl did get a chance to have a look at that massage ball I recommended? There’s loads of stuff like that around these days and I just have a feeling you hopefully just need to up your self maintenance game a bit.
My victory will be all the sweeter (I wish ha ha)
steverob
Guru
- Location
- Buckinghamshire
Kind of gutted that I get home from work so late. I'd love to join these handicap races as they sound really neat (if a little exhausting!) but I'm still on the train at 7pm.
Now a more important point to raise is that someone is going to have to make a decision about what we're doing regarding the stages for the Tour de Zwift, because there could be a bit of an issue if we're going to do a league.
They've kind of released some times for the first London stage, but the website for signing up is still a little screwy, listing times that aren't actually correct and on dates when they shouldn't be, but the courses do at least seem to be set now. And that's where the problem is...
It seems as though the courses are different for each category - unlike the Tour of London where it was just more or less laps of the same course, here for the first stage of the group rides, the long course is Leith Hill After Party, the short course is Greatest London Flat and the women's ride (yeah I know that doesn't apply here, but thought I'd mention it) is Greater London 8. Meanwhile the race event is completely separate (with the normal A-D categories based on w/kg) and is not only on a different course - London 8 - but is the shortest one out of all four rides!
Which means if some are doing the long group ride, while others are choosing to do the race, everyone is going to have very different results. So who's going to pick which we're doing for each stage?
Now a more important point to raise is that someone is going to have to make a decision about what we're doing regarding the stages for the Tour de Zwift, because there could be a bit of an issue if we're going to do a league.
They've kind of released some times for the first London stage, but the website for signing up is still a little screwy, listing times that aren't actually correct and on dates when they shouldn't be, but the courses do at least seem to be set now. And that's where the problem is...
It seems as though the courses are different for each category - unlike the Tour of London where it was just more or less laps of the same course, here for the first stage of the group rides, the long course is Leith Hill After Party, the short course is Greatest London Flat and the women's ride (yeah I know that doesn't apply here, but thought I'd mention it) is Greater London 8. Meanwhile the race event is completely separate (with the normal A-D categories based on w/kg) and is not only on a different course - London 8 - but is the shortest one out of all four rides!
Which means if some are doing the long group ride, while others are choosing to do the race, everyone is going to have very different results. So who's going to pick which we're doing for each stage?
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Hi @steverob - where did you see that it was the W/kg cats? The Zwift website has this...
“Are there Women’s only group rides?
Absolutely. All Category C group rides will be for women only.
What’s the difference between group ride and a race?
Group rides are like IRL fondos, with everyone going their chosen distance and riding with friends. Everyone can ride at their own pace. Races are more competitive–first over the line wins. Typically the courses are shorter to balance what will normally be a higher intensity effort.”
So it looks like a Fondo group, a ladies only group and a race group. Maybe they’ve updated their plans?
Freelanderuk
Über Member
- Location
- Theddlethorpe , Lincolnshire
Tour de Zwift details I saw
https://zwiftinsider.com/tour-de-zwift-2020/
YOU’VE GOT OPTIONS
With stages spanning a few days apiece and each group ride category and race covering a different route, Zwifters have several ride options for each stage.
Can’t get enough TdZ? Ride multiple events in each stage!
CATEGORIES
For the first time ever in a Zwift tour, each stage includes separate group ride and race events.
For group ride events, the category (A, B, C) selected determines your route. This gives riders more control over the length and difficulty of their ride.
A: long route
B: shorter/easier route
C: women’s only
Race events use the same route regardless of category selection. Racers, choose your category based on FTP w/kg, like most Zwift races:
MIXED (MEN & WOMEN) RACE CATEGORIES
A: 4-5 w/kg
B: 3.2-3.9 w/kg
C: 2.5-3.1 w/kg
D: 1-2.4 w/kg
WOMEN’S RACE CATEGORIES
A: 3.7-5 w/kg
B: 3.2-3.69 w/kg
C: 2.5-3.19 w/kg
D: 1-2.49 w/kg
STAGE DETAILS
STAGE 1: JAN 12-15 (CLICK FOR ROUTE DETAILS)
Group Ride (Category A) Leith Hill After Party, 1 Lap
Group Ride (Category B) Greatest London Flat, 1 Lap
Group Ride (Category C) Greater London 8, 1 Lap
Race (All Categories) London 8, 1 Lap
Sign up for stage 1 events at Zwift.com or via Zwift Companion
See all upcoming TdZ events at ZwiftHacks.com >
https://zwiftinsider.com/tour-de-zwift-2020/
YOU’VE GOT OPTIONS
With stages spanning a few days apiece and each group ride category and race covering a different route, Zwifters have several ride options for each stage.
Can’t get enough TdZ? Ride multiple events in each stage!
CATEGORIES
For the first time ever in a Zwift tour, each stage includes separate group ride and race events.
For group ride events, the category (A, B, C) selected determines your route. This gives riders more control over the length and difficulty of their ride.
A: long route
B: shorter/easier route
C: women’s only
Race events use the same route regardless of category selection. Racers, choose your category based on FTP w/kg, like most Zwift races:
MIXED (MEN & WOMEN) RACE CATEGORIES
A: 4-5 w/kg
B: 3.2-3.9 w/kg
C: 2.5-3.1 w/kg
D: 1-2.4 w/kg
WOMEN’S RACE CATEGORIES
A: 3.7-5 w/kg
B: 3.2-3.69 w/kg
C: 2.5-3.19 w/kg
D: 1-2.49 w/kg
STAGE DETAILS
STAGE 1: JAN 12-15 (CLICK FOR ROUTE DETAILS)
Group Ride (Category A) Leith Hill After Party, 1 Lap
Group Ride (Category B) Greatest London Flat, 1 Lap
Group Ride (Category C) Greater London 8, 1 Lap
Race (All Categories) London 8, 1 Lap
Sign up for stage 1 events at Zwift.com or via Zwift Companion
See all upcoming TdZ events at ZwiftHacks.com >
@Freelanderuk don't worry - this is the same kind of system they used in the recent Tour of London I think. So like with that, we just have to decide in advance which event we'll all do - long, short or race - for each stage. In the Tour of London we all just did the Long route for each stage. As long as we all choose the same option it'll be fine. I don't interpret that as the Group Ride "categories" meaning anything other than the length of the course (or gender) so anyone can join any option.
