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bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
I take it neither of these 2 are one of the riders foolishly supported on FB last week for doing the same thing?
This is the other guy in the same section of race. Not as obvious and he may have just been reacting to the obvious saw-toother to try to hold his wheel.
The irony is the guy who saw-toothed came behind me and this other guy ... but still, should probably be called out officially.
The irony is the guy who saw-toothed came behind me and this other guy ... but still, should probably be called out officially.
No idea ... didn't see the chat on FB. Do you have a link?
I agree that this guys data doesn't support such a blatant use of that on/off power technique as the other one. Some trainers or PMs do give some quite lumpy power graphs like this so I'd be more wary of calling this guy out on it, even though something a bit odd does seem to be going on. The other one does look quite blatant to me from what I can see, particularly when you takeinto account the cadence data from Strava
I think this is the Facebook post Bob's referring to
View: https://www.facebook.com/groups/wtrlzwiftracingleague/permalink/849520939165929/
Aleman
Knees are FUBAR but I don't like to mention it
- Location
- Blackpool UK
I know when I returned to cycling 5 or 6 years ago, I was stunned to find my HR was WAY higher than the 168-Age estimate My peak HR was recorded at 208 
. I remember talking to the doctor about it when he was taking my pulse and blood pressure, he brought it up by asking if I did any endurance sports, as my HR and BP were down where they would expect marathon runners to be (57 BPM and 68/110). He told me not be be too concerned as it's recovery that matters ... as long as the HR falls to a sensible level with 10 minutes of stopping it's OK. I've been doing a lot of work on VO2 Max recently and rarely get a HR much more than 183 ... although to be fair, I'm also aware that when I go over 183 I'm going into the red, so it had better be worth it 
FWIW Miguel Indurain had a Resting HR somewhere around the low 20's, and his maximal HR ... 220!!. His stroke volume was also huge, which accounts for the abilities he had. One doctor I was riding with turned round and told me I had a heart the size of a hummingbird when we were discussing this!!! 
. I remember talking to the doctor about it when he was taking my pulse and blood pressure, he brought it up by asking if I did any endurance sports, as my HR and BP were down where they would expect marathon runners to be (57 BPM and 68/110). He told me not be be too concerned as it's recovery that matters ... as long as the HR falls to a sensible level with 10 minutes of stopping it's OK. I've been doing a lot of work on VO2 Max recently and rarely get a HR much more than 183 ... although to be fair, I'm also aware that when I go over 183 I'm going into the red, so it had better be worth it FWIW Miguel Indurain had a Resting HR somewhere around the low 20's, and his maximal HR ... 220!!
. His stroke volume was also huge, which accounts for the abilities he had. One doctor I was riding with turned round and told me I had a heart the size of a hummingbird when we were discussing this!!!
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
BurningLegs
Guru
<Tommy>
Guru
- Location
- Camden, London
So this is why people love the Neo @<Tommy> ?
Seriously though @Norry1 this seems like a bit of an odd result to me? We'd expect to see a slightly higher output at the pedals than at the turbo due to drive train losses?? Not sure what typical losses are on the drive train but I wouldn't be surprised if it was 5-10W?
Dunno why you’re singling me out. I’m renowned for my impartiality!
I was surprised by norry graph to be honest. I never did a similar test with a road bike on the neo. But I’ve seen a lot of other peoples graphs which show the neo under reads power in comparison. I think Alan found that too, but I think he was previously on a single sided power peddle and we all know how generous they are
<Tommy>
Guru
- Location
- Camden, London
Well done last night everyone 👍👍. Just catching up with the thread now... It sounds like double agent Derek should be looking over his shoulder and beginning to get worried around about now! 
I didn't name and shame
Was hoping one of his team might pop up and have a quiet word with him about his technique. Next time though, I'm organising the mob with flaming torches and pitchforks 👹
straas
Matt
- Location
- Manchester
You know what would be great on zwift - a ghost feature.
Especially if you could load up a mates ride and try and beat them.
Booked in for an ecg & blood test for the old heart in just over a week. Just started wearing my garmin watch again and shows a resting heart rate of 51 currently which seems fairly normal.
Maybe I have a really small heart?
Especially if you could load up a mates ride and try and beat them.
Booked in for an ecg & blood test for the old heart in just over a week. Just started wearing my garmin watch again and shows a resting heart rate of 51 currently which seems fairly normal.
Maybe I have a really small heart?
JuhaL
Guru
As far as i know that is been in a wish list few years now. Few years ago it's been said it's coming soon but nothing happened yet. Would be nice to ride against my own ghost as well.
Brusgaard
Über Guru
- Location
- Skive, Denmark
On BKOOL it is relatively easy, as you have a route from A->B. It only has to record your speed, watts, time etc. at each "point" on this route.
On Zwift the system would have to save the same information, but also the exact route ridden that day, for instance A-B-C-D-E-D-E-D-E-F-G-H and then lock you onto that same route when riding against your ghost. So way more complicated and also requires some sort of UI to select to ride a previous route with a ghost.
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