Sticker says "I cant see cyclists" , has Croydon council logo.

[mjr]

Irony is alive and well and living in Croydon. They drove this around to increase cyclist safety.

I particularly like the way that cyclists travelling in the same direction can only read the "stay-behind" no-overtaking message once they've started overtaking the lorry - or more likely, once the lorry has started overtaking them, they'll see its get-back-scum message as it turns across their path.

Croydon Crapcil sent the link to the article @glenn forger mentions in reply to my tweet. This is for real and not a hoax. Absolutely scandalous. Any Croydon constituents on here? Your taxes are being frittered away by madmen.

 

[srw]

Sorry, this link:

http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/3131.html

Bryan Smith, owner of Transporta, said: “We are acutely aware of the dangers to cyclists who ride alongside our vehicles at junctions. Some of our trailers are over 40 feet long and will effectively close down the whole lane when turning. Any cyclist alongside is taking their life in their hands. - See more at: http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/3131.html#sthash.sPUM2QQk.dpuf

To quote that article....
"
‘Cycle Aware’ campaign launched in Croydon
Tuesday 15th October 2013"

(My red highlight). I think you might be at risk of getting your knickers in a twist about something which disappeared without trace a couple of years ago.

Which doesn't excuse Croydon's sorry response to @mjray.

 

[glenn forger]

That link is being sent out by the campaign, they sent it this morning.

 

[srw]

That link is being sent out by the campaign, they sent it this morning.

In which case I suggest you give them a ring, rather than complain to us.

From the website:

Cyclists' safety
Elaine Beckett, Principal Road Safety Officer, London Borough of Hackney • 0208 356 4963

Sean Carroll, Senior Road Safety Officer, East Riding Council • 01482 395574

http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/pages/advice.html

 

[glenn forger]

I have.

 

[srw]

I have.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who is more interested in what they said, and how they're going to improve communications, than in the fact that you're a bit cheesed off.

 

[mjr]

I have.

Would you let us know their response? Meanwhile, I've contacted Croydon outside of Twitter too. The person who spotted the sticker this week is asking them questions too.

I'd missed that it was launched 2013, but this evil sticker seems still in use. Has anyone challenged this particular variation of shoot already?

 

[glenn forger]

Thay havent replied and theyre not allowing my comments on that "Road safety" page that asked what Transporta's financial input was.

 

[srw]

Thay havent replied and theyre not allowing my comments on that "Road safety" page that asked what Transporta's financial input was.

You've got a couple of phone numbers and a fair bit of time. I'm sure that sooner or later one of the two people who are responsible for the cycling component will be available to speak to you. Perhaps they're on holiday at the moment.

 

[mjr]

You've got a couple of phone numbers and a fair bit of time. I'm sure that sooner or later one of the two people who are responsible for the cycling component will be available to speak to you. Perhaps they're on holiday at the moment.

Or perhaps those "road safety" officers who got the short straw of cyclist safety don't like talking to actual cyclists. They wouldn't be the first. If you do track them down, they may well stick to blaming cyclists for their own deaths.

 

[srw]

Or perhaps those "road safety" officers who got the short straw of cyclist safety don't like talking to actual cyclists. They wouldn't be the first. If you do track them down, they may well stick to blaming cyclists for their own deaths.

We won't know until @glenn forger manages to speak to them. He's got their phone numbers and their email addresses and employers, and he's a persistant individual.

 

[glenn forger]

We know they dont allow comments that ask questions about exactly what backing Transporta gave so i dont have high hopes. No reply on twitter either. Maybe they didnt realise that a road sfaety campaign backed by a haulage firm that squarely blames cyclists comes across badly.

 

[srw]

We know they dont allow comments that ask questions about exactly what backing Transporta gave so i dont have high hopes. No reply on twitter either. Maybe they didnt realise that a road sfaety campaign backed by a haulage firm that squarely blames cyclists comes across badly.

Well, we don't. We know that you claim to have posted a comment on the thread which hasn't yet made it through their moderation. We don't know why not.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

We know they dont allow comments that ask questions about exactly what backing Transporta gave so i dont have high hopes. No reply on twitter either. Maybe they didnt realise that a road sfaety campaign backed by a haulage firm that squarely blames cyclists comes across badly.

Do you think that cycleaware.com might be interested in the copyright issue over name and derivative logo, particularly as it harms their image?

 

[srw]

We know they dont allow comments that ask questions about exactly what backing Transporta gave so i dont have high hopes. No reply on twitter either. Maybe they didnt realise that a road sfaety campaign backed by a haulage firm that squarely blames cyclists comes across badly.

http://www.roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/3131.html

We now know that you're wrong and they do allow such questions on their comments threads. I'm sure that when you speak to their two cycling specialists you'll pose questions in a way that doesn't invite a one-word response. Perhaps you could invite them to this discussion?