The kids want a dog!

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peanut

Guest
Crackle said:
Nothing and this would be a good time to talk about proper training and how to raise a dog xx(
so you think you could have done better eh :biggrin: I'd like to think I could have but it wasn't my dog and more than my life was worth to interfere:biggrin:
 

Mortiroloboy

New Member
3-IN-One said:
All dogs Malt I,m afraid but for Temp I would go for Golden/Black Lab.

That's an ideal breed then, a dog that can make its own beer.
 

Mortiroloboy

New Member
Get down to your local Dogs trust re-homing centre and give a dog a second chance, they'll love you more, we have two dogs one from a local farm, a Border Terrier and the rescue dog a Yorkie cross, he is never far from our side.
 

colly

Re member eR
Location
Leeds
User259iroloboy said:
Get down to your local Dogs trust re-homing centre and give a dog a second chance, they'll love you more, we have two dogs one from a local farm, a Border Terrier and the rescue dog a Yorkie cross, he is never far from our side.

+1

Yep get a cross breed from the Dogs Trust.

They will give you all the advice you need as to what dog would be suitable, show you some your kids would like, it will be in good condition, flea'd and wormed, and chipped as well into the bargain and all for about 75 quid. xx(

Is it true that mongrels are less prone to illness etc?
 

buggi

Bird Saviour
Location
Solihull
3-IN-One said:
All dogs Malt I,m afraid but for Temp I would go for Golden/Black Lab.

If you don't want a dog that "malts" don't go for short smooth haired dogs like jack russells, bulldog types. What you want is something that's a bit rougher haired and longer haired. this way it doesn't brush off on everything and you're not a fur magnet. Instead it clumps together and tends to come out when they roll on the floor in a clump, and you can just pick it up and put it in the bin. they do require a bit of grooming to stop fur matting but this is "quality time" with your dog

I have a cross bearded collie. she's long haired and the fur is not really smooth. she can sit next to me on the settee and you wouldn't know when i got up that she had been sitting on me. same with my sisters westie. he's been sitting on my lap all night and you wouldn't know. so things like westie, scotties, schnauzers, poodles, cairns, and those ones that are like the toy ones you used to get on wheels when we were little(can't remember what they are called) don't malt.

by contrast, my sisters bull mastiff is very short smooth haired and it's a nightmare, so you want to avoid dogs like that. i only have to walk within 2 feet of it and it's like i'm a hair magnet. i hate going round there.

All dogs can have the tendency to bite and to be good natured. obvious don't get any type of fighting dog if you have kids. at least when small dogs bite, they just snap and let go. fighting dogs tend to hold on which is when real damage is done.

What you want is to see the puppies with their mom and to know they are socialised with humans as early as possible but definitely no later than 4 weeks. i have met the guy who is supposed to be the authority on dogs in the UK (i took him coz i had problems with my dog) and he told me that dogs begin to have problems with humans if they have not been socialized by 5 weeks. by 12 weeks it's impossible to integrate them so use this as your scale (my dog was 7 weeks when socialised and we were already having no end of problems but he did manage to sort her out. however we still don't leave her with kids). he told me, ideally, 3 weeks or before is the ideal age to socialise the dog with humans.

under no circumstances buy a puppy if you have not seen it in the home with the mother.
 
we've had a Heinz 57 for the last 11 years, a whippet terrier cross, looks like a small lurcher (sic) great dog lovely with the kids but boy did she like to run, better now but 8 years of calling 'Pip' repeatedly at the top of my voice when ever we went for a walk.

as she is getting old she has calmed down. wife has been on about getting another dog for the last 2 years and the youngest has decided she wants one for her birthday in May. Just put a deposit on a cocker to be picked up at the end of april. bloody expensive considering the first one was from the blue cross and cost us a donation of £40, this one is 10 times the price!!!

it is great to have a dog in the house, often it's better than having a burglar alarm on the front of the house to protect your belongings!

Windy
 
buggi said:
What you want is to see the puppies with their mom and to know they are socialised with humans as early as possible but definitely no later than 4 weeks. i have met the guy who is supposed to be the authority on dogs in the UK (i took him coz i had problems with my dog) and he told me that dogs begin to have problems with humans if they have not been socialized by 5 weeks. by 12 weeks it's impossible to integrate them so use this as your scale (my dog was 7 weeks when socialised and we were already having no end of problems but he did manage to sort her out. however we still don't leave her with kids). he told me, ideally, 3 weeks or before is the ideal age to socialise the dog with humans.

under no circumstances buy a puppy if you have not seen it in the home with the mother.

that is good to read we went to see the puppy a couple of days ago, they were in the house with a cage for sleeping in and a fire guard keeping them in one half of the kitchen, each one easily identified by the daughter of the owner, who sat and played with them whilst we were there. The pups mum was with us while we picked up the pups and showed no aggression, just really looking to be fussed over as well!

Windy
 

buggi

Bird Saviour
Location
Solihull
WindyRob said:
that is good to read we went to see the puppy a couple of days ago, they were in the house with a cage for sleeping in and a fire guard keeping them in one half of the kitchen, each one easily identified by the daughter of the owner, who sat and played with them whilst we were there. The pups mum was with us while we picked up the pups and showed no aggression, just really looking to be fussed over as well!

Windy

that's exactly the scenario you should be looking for. unfortunately i got my dog from a puppy farm. i was a bit naive and thought it was just a farmyard, but when the guy asked me if there was more than one puppy pen i realised my mistake. (there were 3). he told me had i got Penny at 9 weeks she would have probably been aggressive for life. there was puppy there that was 9 weeks old. it looked scared as hell and i fell in love with it, but my mum wanted Penny. i always wondered what happened to that poor dog. probably got put down for biting someone.

it's something to do with their natural instinct. they did an experiment in the 60's. group of puppies socialised at 3 weeks, group at 5 weeks, group at 7 wks, 9wks, 12 wks. results were:-
puppies socialised at 3 weeks =happy dogs.
puppies socialised at 5 weeks = nervous of humans at first, but got better after a few days.
7 weeks = nervous and aggressive, and take weeks to get used to humans.
9 weeks = aggressive and always have a side to them.
12 weeks = totally aggressive and will never come round.

it's to do with the natural instinct of leaving the den, if they haven't seen something by 12 weeks they will naturally be frightened of it and become aggressive. The won't even take to a ball after 12 weeks if they have not played with one before. The syndrome is known as fear aggression.
 

purplepolly

New Member
Location
my house
gary r said:
my children are 5 & 8.They have a stay at home mum & we are thinking about getting a small dog.Border terrier,Schnauser & King Charles Cavaliers have been talked about.The main thing is good temprament,doesnt malt much if at all.any suggestions or advise on the breeds mentioned??or alternatives ??

My parents got their first border terrier when I was 7 (they're now on no.3). They've all been friendly with strangers, not at all snappy, great with children, and almost untrainable (basic commands can be taught with the help of titbits, even people who show them seem to resort to this). No.1 (male) was aggressive to adult male dogs that weren't borders but fine with anything else including the cat. I would recommend them to anyone who wants a small dog and has children, but they may not meet the low malt criteria.
 

purplepolly

New Member
Location
my house
peanut said:
The wife's Doby tonight has eaten the cat's food,chewed her bed, smashed her head through the cat flap to bark at the neighbours (scared the bejeesus out of them :blush:)
Then she peeded on the carpet . When we let her out in the garden she barked her stupid head of all the way down the garden.
Now she is firmly ensconced on the best sofa in the house snoring
Tell me what is appealing about that ?:laugh:

A doberman is a working dog - intelligent and active - and is unlikely to be happy vegitating as a pet. If you want a happy dog get a stupid one or be prepared to put in a lot of time exercising it physically and mentally.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
User259iroloboy said:
Get down to your local Dogs trust re-homing centre and give a dog a second chance, they'll love you more, we have two dogs one from a local farm, a Border Terrier and the rescue dog a Yorkie cross, he is never far from our side.

Although I think that is a nice idea, I would add be careful too. My neighbour had a rescue dog, and it came with all sorts of hang ups. Whenever she fed her, the dog would look wearily at the food then gobble it all down and retreat away from her.

But the biggest mistake that the rescue people made was putting the dog in a house that had grandchildren come to visit, and apparently she wasn't used to children and would go mad. She found out on investigation later that the dog had been badly mistreated and wasn't used to children or being fed properly. And other dogs... complete nightmare. She loved the dog but it took several years of training/love.

So ask your questions at the rehoming centre - find out why its being rehomed.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
What's this about dogs that malt? It's MOULT, as in moulting, FFS. Malt is something to do with brewing.

Miniature wire-haired Dachshund. Cute.
 
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