Tour De France 2020 with SPOILERS

[matticus]

rich p said:
I've often wondered if the next French winner of the Tour will do his victory speech in French or English but, sadly, I fear I will never find out at my age..

When it does happen, and be patient, he will most certainly do it in French , why should he do it in English ?

So that his team can understand him?

 

[matticus]

Away from the spotlight, a finely-judged ride today from Pierre Rolland saw him take the lead in the sable jersey classification, but he looks vulnerable to a late challenge from Nairo Quintana in the final time-trial.

Rolland is in 18th place at 1h 00m 13s, Quintana 17th at 0h 57m 49s. With no other serious challengers, advantage Quintana I'd say.

sable??

Citation please!

 

[gavroche]

So that his team can understand him?

What has his team got to do with the winner's speech?

 

[matticus]

Rather a lot of cynicism (to put it politely, which I wouldn't…) about Pogačar's performance on YACF [and elsewhere, natch], led by the usual forum specialist in doping conspiracy theory.
<snip> ... As there exists no way of proving a negative and, unless I'm mistaken, the burden of proof remains with prosecution not defence, I'll have a little more faith in human nature and current testing procedures than the scepticism of online witchfinders…

What a surprise!

[at the risk of getting sucked into this ...
does anyone have rider weight/BMI data for the top contenders this year? 2020 must the be the most climber-friendly final TT, so bigger riders like TomD would expect to lose more time than in a flatter ride to the lighter guys.

Pog looks the most bird-like, but these things are often deceptive!]

 

[matticus]

What has his team got to do with the winner's speech?

They get to hear it too! It's the most public chance to thank them, and they probably want to hear what their guy has to say, on their biggest day of the year.

(and I'm really just having a friendly dig at the chances of a French team winning the thing, so please don't get too excited )

 

[gavroche]

They get to hear it too! It's the most public chance to thank them, and they probably want to hear what their guy has to say, on their biggest day of the year.

(and I'm really just having a friendly dig at the chances of a French team winning the thing, so please don't get too excited )

1- The chances of a French team or rider winning the Tour is years away yet.
2- The winner's speech , being in France, should, at least, be in French and English, as a mark of respect to the French nation and the origins of the Tour.
Why does everybody assume the whole world speaks English?

 

[Once a Wheeler]

Away from the spotlight, a finely-judged ride today from Pierre Rolland saw him take the lead in the sable jersey classification, but he looks vulnerable to a late challenge from Nairo Quintana in the final time-trial.

There's a bit of a lost-in-translation problem with the maillot sable. A sable jersey would be a black jersey, as the word sable in English, when used as an adjective, refers to the colour of the sable animal, renowned for its black fur:

The maillot sable refers to the French word sable meaning sand. As the hypothetical jersey for the first man to come in one hour behind the winner it refers to the sand in the hour-glass, usually a drab yellow, making a suitable contrast to the daffodil-yellow jersey of the winner:

So it is either the maillot sable or the sand-coloured jersey, otherwise we risk inventing a black jersey — which would perhaps be a suitable rotten-bad-luck prize for anyone forced to abandon on the final stage.

 

[matticus]

Oh for goodness sake: turns out Sam Bennett isn't even Irish. Like Wiggins, he's from Belgium!

Bennett was born in 1990 in Menen, Flanders, Belgium, where his father Michael came in 1989 to play professional football for local club Eendracht Wervik.

He moved with his parents to their native Ireland at the age of four, where he spent most of his early years growing up in Carrick-on-Suir, the hometown of fellow cyclist Sean Kelly.

(I wonder how good his French is ... )

 

[Adam4868]

Oh for goodness sake: turns out Sam Bennett isn't even Irish. Like Wiggins, he's from Belgium

Of what relevance is that ? He's Irish...ask him.

 

[matticus]

Gosh, people in this thread are touchy about national identities! Lighten up folks (does every non-serious post need a smiley? Oh no, that didn't help with the french upset ... )

 

[Adam4868]

Gosh, people in this thread are touchy about national identities! Lighten up folks (does every non-serious post need a smiley? Oh no, that didn't help with the french upset ... )

I'm guessing it might mean something to certain people ?
Sam Bennett responds to Bradley Wiggins’ attempt to claim him as British as he says ‘I’m fully Irish don’t worry’

 

[BalkanExpress]

Oh for goodness sake: turns out Sam Bennett isn't even Irish. Like Wiggins, he's from Belgium!




(I wonder how good his French is ... )

I'm guessing it is shi...ite,what with having been born in Dutch* speaking Flanders.


*there's a great, but very niche, linguistic argument to be had on this point

 

[matticus]

I'm guessing it might mean something to certain people ?
Sam Bennett responds to Bradley Wiggins’ attempt to claim him as British as he says ‘I’m fully Irish don’t worry’

No need to shout.

Anyway, I still don't know if he speaks French. Maybe just Flemish?
(EDIT: cross-post with mr @BalkanExpress !)

 

[Dave Davenport]

Haven't you lot seen the latest ruling from the UCI; 'Ĉiuj rajdantoj kaj teama personaro devas flui kaj komuniki nur esperante'.

 

[matticus]

Google translates that as:
It looks like there aren't any great matches for your search
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