£30 fine for no lights

[davidallenxyz]

So you say, but you still feel the need to get this ignorant dig in

Absolutely. I am completely ignorant of the benefits of being seen by motorists and protecting my noggin. Perhaps one day I will make the step to enlightenment and discard the frivolous accessories. In the mean time, I'll stick to the helmet and hi-viz. After all, it's what I ask my kids to wear (it embarrasses me to reveal how narrow-minded I am about it - but as a car driver as well, I can't help but see other little ones from further away if they are wearing the hi-viz rubbish, and you might be surprised to hear that it gives me more time to make a decision that will leave them with plenty of space to enjoy riding safely on the road.).

Anyway - back to the lights. I'm in favour of them. And in favour of any fines if the police choose to apply the law. 'Nuff said.

 

[mcshroom]

Absolutely. I am completely ignorant of the benefits of being seen by motorists and protecting my noggin. Perhaps one day I will make the step to enlightenment and discard the frivolous accessories. In the mean time, I'll stick to the helmet and hi-viz. After all, it's what I ask my kids to wear (it embarrasses me to reveal how narrow-minded I am about it - but as a car driver as well, I can't help but see other little ones from further away if they are wearing the hi-viz rubbish, and you might be surprised to hear that it gives me more time to make a decision that will leave them with plenty of space to enjoy riding safely on the road.).

Anyway - back to the lights. I'm in favour of them. And in favour of any fines if the police choose to apply the law. 'Nuff said.

... and do your lights meet the legal standard?

 

[davidallenxyz]

... and do your lights meet the legal standard?

Yes. And my reflectors too for that matter.

 

[Dan B]

Blaming the car for driving without consideration from your hospital bed or your grave is a pretty stupid way of making your point. I'm "lit up like Blackpool" and ride on the assumption that every other road user is an idiot who hasn't seen me.

I don't blame the car for anything, it's the twat behind the car's steering wheel who's usually at fault, and having the police pull over cyclists is doing approximately the square root of sod all towards fixing that problem. What you as a cyclist do or don't do to mitigate other people's shoot driving is not actually the issue here, the issue is what the people who are tasked with making the roads safer are doing.

 

[mcshroom]

Yes. And my reflectors too for that matter.

So what markings do they carry then?

 

[davidallenxyz]

So what markings do they carry then?

Would you like me to photograph them for you?

Since I ride 80s/90s Raleigh's to work (when British Standards meant something) I'm sorry to say that you are well off target in your attempt at a cheap shot.

 

[mcshroom]

Would you like me to photograph them for you?

Since I ride 80s/90s Raleigh's to work (when British Standards meant something) I'm sorry to say that you are well off target in your attempt at a cheap shot.

Might be an idea.

 

[Dan B]

Would you like me to photograph them for you?

Since I ride 80s/90s Raleigh's to work (when British Standards meant something) I'm sorry to say that you are well off target in your attempt at a cheap shot.

 

[davidallenxyz]

Congrats - you win the internet!

I have got better things to do with my life than photo the kitemarks on 80s Cateye reflectors. I don't care if you believe me or not. Call the Police if you like - they should find me going under the arches on Gloucester Road at around 7.30am tomorrow if proof is needed.

 

[davidallenxyz]

Not those - but I remember them well.

 

[Dan B]

These are the ones I was actually looking for. Memorable mostly for pivoting nicely round the seat stay to which they were clamped, smacking in to the spokes and spewing their C cells (D cells?) right across the road.

 

[Scoosh]

Mod Note:
Okay, stop with the silly stuff and the Thread can continue, if you so wish.

No more Helmet stuff - you know where that should go - and no deliberately misunderstanding what is being said or clearly implied.

Thank you.

 

[Dan B]

Worrying if accurate since only the lights are mandatory after sundown.

I thought the line being proposed here was "never mind what the law says, being right is a poor substitute for being alive". I think you guys proposing that it's all the cyclist's fault when they get hit by someone driving a car should get together and agree your story, it's coming over a bit confused right now

 

[mcshroom]

Not to mention the confusion of arguments about Police priorities and where the police road safety budget should be prioritised, and some posters' personal opinions on using lights (and assumptions about others non-usage of them)

 

[MontyVeda]

I thought the line being proposed here was "never mind what the law says, being right is a poor substitute for being alive". I think you guys proposing that it's all the cyclist's fault when they get hit by someone driving a car should get together and agree your story, it's coming over a bit confused right now

I advocate the use of lights. I also think that the police spending a few hours each evening issuing fines/warnings/producers for a couple of nights to cyclists not using lights after dark is fine too. I also think that the onus is on drivers to drive with due care and attentions at all times. I don't think we should have to wear day-glow jackets/vests, but i do have day-glo/reflective trouser clips.. and my pedals are illegal due having no reflectors, but i do have the reflecty trouser thingies.