13 worst makes of cars not to buy.

[Markymark]

My cars give me no real hassle. Drive beautifully too.

 

[steve50]

Prior to my last couple of vauxhalls I owned a Volvo v40 , it was one of the most troublesome vehicles I have ever owned, I eventually got rid of it and then discovered they are more renault than volvo, says it all really.

 

[hopless500]

That's disputable as the actual breakdown data is for cars out of manufacturers' warrantee and doesn't state if the data includes breakdowns not covered by the extended warrantees.

Nice hat Vern.

Is Christmas on the way????

 

[Mrs M]

We had a lovely wee yellow Renault Megane Coupe. First new car and had it for five trouble free years.
Then Mr M bought a six month old top of the range Audi which cost a fortune for parts and servicing. Then the air con system went belly up just outwith the warranty, despite the car being taken to garage on numerous occasions with an air con problem.
Audi charged £900 to fix this but Mr M argued and got half back, then got rid.
"The Limo" as she was named was very comfy with a giant boot but bit of a dud .

 

[gavroche]

When I was a driving instructor, I had a Citroen C2 and then a Citroen C3. Both cars were from new and both covered over 60 000 miles before changing. Never had any trouble with either of them. I now have a Renault Captur from new which is now 7 months old and I love it.

 

[perplexed]

I've said it before, but what the heck...

I've had a few second hand Renaults. All well equipped, comfy, reliable and trouble free. A chum buys a brand new Golf every couple of years, which invariably have repeated trips back to the dealers. For some reason, he persisted in extracting the Michael out of my choice of vehicle at the time. I don't have a Renault at the moment, but as soon as he can, he'll be off to buy another Golf despite his 100% 'issues' record with them. (About 5 he's had!)

 

[Piemaster]

I used to own a bmw, had to get rid, my wife hated it and i couldn't handle the humiliation and p#ss taking from my workmates.
Come to think of it why in the Uk is the bmw and audi so highly prized, in germany a bmw is the equivelant of our humble ford escort, evey man and his dog owns one.

They're getting pretty common here too. BMW / Audi are sort of victims of their own success, you can't claim to sell an exclusive vehicle when every other one is one. Think I see less late Mondeos now than BMW.

Did read a motor journalists account of buying a used BMW 7 series a few years ago. By the time he gave up on it the total for repair bills (was under warranty) would have bought a new Focus.

 

[NorthernDave]

They're getting pretty common here too. BMW / Audi are sort of victims of their own success, you can't claim to sell an exclusive vehicle when every other one is one. Think I see less late Mondeos now than BMW.

Did read a motor journalists account of buying a used BMW 7 series a few years ago. By the time he gave up on it the total for repair bills (was under warranty) would have bought a new Focus.

The BMW 5-series comfortably outsells the Mondeo, let alone the 3-series. But that's badge appeal for you.

It's a while ago now, but the company i was working for had a list of company cars available at specific grades.

Middle management types could have a base 316i in a solid colour, or a mid spec Honda Accord or a top of the range Vauxhall Omega, which had every imaginable 'extra' fitted as standard and a considerably more powerful engine. But every single one of them chose a BMW...

Every member of the field engineering team had either a Peugeot or a Citroen (from a list that also included several German cars), which speaks volumes.

 

[gavroche]

I blame "Top Gear" for the snobbery and halo attached to BMWs, Audis and VWs. They certainly don't deserve it and is a gross misconception of reality.

 

[screenman]

Despite being less reliable therefor more costly to run it is likely I will buy another Passat.

 

[Markymark]

Most of the crappy cheaper cars don't come with a big enough engine.

 

[gavroche]

Most of the crappy cheaper cars don't come with a big enough engine.

" A big enough engine " for what reason?

 

[steve50]

Most of the crappy cheaper cars don't come with a big enough engine.

Why do you need a big engine, the speed limit on the motorways in the uk is 70mph, even a poxy 1ltr powered car can achieve that and your average 1.6ltr family car can easily achieve and maintain that speed in a good degree of comfort and economy. what is it with people that want to drive big engined gas guzzlers, is something to do with the superiority complex that goes with owning a bmw???

 

[Vapin' Joe]

When I was a driving instructor, I had a Citroen C2 and then a Citroen C3. Both cars were from new and both covered over 60 000 miles before changing. Never had any trouble with either of them. I now have a Renault Captur from new which is now 7 months old and I love it.

I ran Peugeots and Citroens when I was doing the job, same as you I had very little trouble with them. My last tuition car was a VW Lupo, not a bad motor but VW garages were sh!te. No job ever done right first time and incorrect fault diagnosis on a regular basis.

 

[Profpointy]

I don't get the BMW thing either. I had the use of a demonstrator 3 series 2l turbo diesel for a weekend - potentially a company car. After driving it home, we took the wife's peugot out on an errand as the beemer was uncomfortable and tedious to drive. You had to sit slightly sideways to reach the pedals. Horrid thing. I took a skoda in the end which was far nicer to drive, faster and cheaper as it was a dowgrade below my station as it were. I was expecting the beemer to be at least nice to drive, but no - though I've driven worse. luckily I didn't have the brand problem to worry about as I simply didn't like it. Maybe the 5 and 7 series are nicer but not impressed by 320 at all.