2 Things I would change...

[sidevalve]

Make EVERYBODY obay the highway code, including pedestrians, cyclists, m/cyclists, drivers even horse riders and enforce it for ALL.
No 2 in the OP, some sort of road sense should be compulsory for all ages, even tiny kids can get a grip on it if tought young enough.

 

[Dan B]

I'm with the presumed liability "crazies". The roads are public places: operators of potentially dangerous machinery in public places should be required to take care in its operation proportionate to the danger they bring. Perhaps excepting motorways and some dual carriageways where equivalent parallel provision exists, but certainly in towns and villages and other places people live, the law should favor people, not their exoskeletons. If you want to go antisocially fast, use a private road or take the train

 

[theclaud]

i see people walk out on zebra crossings everyday in London, and yet it's my fault if i hit them is it?

Yup. Next!

 

[theclaud]

I find (to my surprise) that threads on this forum have softened or altered some of my thinking.

I see a road environment in which the current hegemony of the motor vehicle is beginning to have its foundations undermined.

This is all good. The rest is bollocks, because once you've sorted out the problem, you don't need to fanny about tinkering with the symptoms.

 

[Boris Bajic]

1: Get rid of high-viz
2: Get rid of cycle lanes

Can we have a 'half-like' button please?

I have yet to see a cycle lane in the UK that I'd use. I'd scrap them all in a second.

But... Although I'm not a user of hi-viz in the accepted sense of the word, I don't think it takes anything away - and when I'm driving it has helped me to identify riders at asafer distance.

 

[theclaud]

Can we have a 'half-like' button please?

I have yet to see a cycle lane in the UK that I'd use. I'd scrap them all in a second.

But... Although I'm not a user of hi-viz in the accepted sense of the word, I don't think it takes anything away - and when I'm driving it has helped me to identify riders at asafer distance.

It doth offend Mr Collins's eye. And it makes everyone look like a Space Lemon.

 

[Boris Bajic]

It doth offend Mr Collins's eye. And it makes everyone look like a Space Lemon.

Great.... That's really done it.

Now I'm going to have a dream about Space Lemons and I don't even know what they are...

I have a good friend in eastern Turkey called Rubad, a member of an oppressed minority and a keen cyclist. He only ever rides in HiViz.

Does that mean he's a.... No.... Better not... I'm not sure that's in very good taste.

Please keep the ideas coming. Even if it's dull for everyone else, I'm finding some of the replies illuminating. I particularly like Bill-on-a-Bike's one about cameras in cars.

 

[snorri]

I'm not convinced that testing and retesting drivers will do much good, most incidents of bad driving I see are as a result of impatience or selfishness rather than lack of driving skill.
Unless it's attitude testing we are discussing.

 

[defy-one]

Yup. Next!

Claud - in a perfect world - where pedestrians -cars - cyclist and motorbikes would all have their segregated lanes

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Can we have a 'half-like' button please?

I have yet to see a cycle lane in the UK that I'd use. I'd scrap them all in a second.

But... Although I'm not a user of hi-viz in the accepted sense of the word, I don't think it takes anything away - and when I'm driving it has helped me to identify riders at asafer distance.

It doesn't take anything away?

It takes away my enjoyment of the built environment and the rural one (yes mtb-ers I'm talking to you) because...

...hi-viz doth offend mine eye.

Edit: and what is this safer distance thing. If you're looking for em you'll see em.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Claud - in a perfect world - where pedestrians -cars - cyclist and motorbikes would all have their segregated lanes

and until then.... you give way to pedestrians...

 

[theclaud]

Claud - in a perfect world - where pedestrians -cars - cyclist and motorbikes would all have their segregated lanes

Perfect world? Sounds like a vision of hell.

 

[ianrauk]

It doesn't take anything away?

It takes away my enjoyment of the built environment and the rural one (yes mtb-ers I'm talking to you) because...

...hi-viz doth offend mine eye.

Edit: and what is this safer distance thing. If you're looking for em you'll see em.

Nail on the proverbial head dear Sir.

 

[Boris Bajic]

It doesn't take anything away?

It takes away my enjoyment of the built environment and the rural one (yes mtb-ers I'm talking to you) because...

...hi-viz doth offend mine eye.

Edit: and what is this safer distance thing. If you're looking for em you'll see em.

OK. This is me now standing corrected.

Change No 1. No Hi-Viz.

Change No 2? Bread & Butter Pudding on Tuesdays for every course of every meal and I get to choose the wallpaper in the dining room?

I feel we're approaching consensus here and am keen to reach a positive outcome.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

the bread and butter pudding thing, it ain't gonna work, but I'll let you sort the wallpaper, so long as it ain't hi-viz.