28 Hole Hubs.

[sackville d]

What about the durability of these compared to 32 holed hubs?. When I say durability I mean with regards them staying in true.
I weigh 70kg give or take and am thinking about some Hope RS Mono 11 speed 28 hole built on Mavic Open Pro. I already have some 32 hole RS hubs on MavicOP and they are lovely wheels but I have two bikes running 11 speed but only one set of wheels with 11 speed hubs so it`s a great excuse for some wheel type n+1 giggery pockery.
The 32 hole hubs will live on my steel and the 28 hole will be fitted to my carbon. So your thoughts on durability of a 28 spoked wheel for a 70kg rider please. Here are the 32s on my PX.

 

[Spoked Wheels]

You could get away with a 28 spokes rear wheel at your weight, depending on your riding style and terrain. Alternatively you could have 32 at the back and 24 at the front, that would be a more durable option.

 

[Onyer]

I weigh about the same as you and I have some hand builts with 28 rear and 24 front. I also have Shimano Ultegra 6800 11 Speed an another bike with 20 rear and 16 front. No problem with either set. The hand builts I use for touring, longer rides etc. on my titanium bike. The Shimanos are on my carbon bike. Like you both bikes have the same chainring/cassette setup.

 

[Dragonwight]

I weigh more than you and I use 20 spokes on the back, 28 should be bomb proof, nice bike by the way, whats going on with the derailleur at the rear?

 

[Vapin' Joe]

28 spokes are no trouble at all. Modern rims are stiff enough to cope with even less than that.

BTW, the OP has committed a horrendous photography faux pas. Front skewer on the right?

 

[downfader]

28 spokes are no trouble at all. Modern rims are stiff enough to cope with even less than that.

BTW, the OP has committed a horrendous photography faux pas. Front skewer on the right?

Isnt that what the Pros do? Perhaps the OP has a team car and a mechanic to bring them a new wheel...

...or they could be left handed...?

I've ridden 24/21 on the back/front before. I was 85kg at the time though they were mavic rims/factory wheels. At 70 I reckon 28 would be fine! Open Pros are very durable

 

[sackville d]

You could get away with a 28 spokes rear wheel at your weight, depending on your riding style and terrain. Alternatively you could have 32 at the back and 24 at the front, that would be a more durable option.

So speaks a man who knows about wheels.Thanks RRSODL,and as for riding style Ha Ha, thats a good one
Come to think of it,they would only go out of true slightly more than a 32 hole hub and just last week I picked up another back wheel which had been taken to Harry Inghams for a quick fettle."How much Harry"..."Two pounds please." At those prices its a bit daft worrying about wheels going out of true.

 

[sackville d]

I weigh about the same as you and I have some hand builts with 28 rear and 24 front. I also have Shimano Ultegra 6800 11 Speed an another bike with 20 rear and 16 front. No problem with either set. The hand builts I use for touring, longer rides etc. on my titanium bike. The Shimanos are on my carbon bike. Like you both bikes have the same chainring/cassette setup.

Likewise Onyer I have some RS80 C24s and the 16 front just looks lacking in spokes but is almost as true as when it came out the box.

 

[sackville d]

I weigh more than you and I use 20 spokes on the back, 28 should be bomb proof, nice bike by the way, whats going on with the derailleur at the rear?

Thanks for that Dragonwight and fair point about the chain.It looks like when I fitted it I went large front and small back with the pully wheel axles lining up at 90 degrees to the horizontal NOT large front and large back.School boy error or what!Looks like a new chain is in order and any spare links will be fitted to the one thats on at the moment.
I think I`ll go and put my shorts on back to front now.

 

[sackville d]

28 spokes are no trouble at all. Modern rims are stiff enough to cope with even less than that.

BTW, the OP has committed a horrendous photography faux pas. Front skewer on the right?

Thanks for the reassurance SJ.I`ve just flogged the man servant responsible for swapping wheels over from one bike to the other and his wife and children will be evicted from their dilapidated cottage before the day is out! By the way, you should see this baby go when I have the REAR skewer on the right hand side

 

[sackville d]

Isnt that what the Pros do? Perhaps the OP has a team car and a mechanic to bring them a new wheel...

...or they could be left handed...?

I've ridden 24/21 on the back/front before. I was 85kg at the time though they were mavic rims/factory wheels. At 70 I reckon 28 would be fine! Open Pros are very durable

Thanks for that downfader and for the duration of this thread I shall be left handed...Cilla

 

[Spoked Wheels]

I weigh more than you and I use 20 spokes on the back, 28 should be bomb proof, nice bike by the way, whats going on with the derailleur at the rear?

20 spokes that are probably thicker and stronger than what you get off the shelf. Most people go for 2.0 - 1.8 - 2.0 double butted spokes. 4 spokes adds less than 30g to a wheel and it definitely adds to the durability of the wheel.
I don't think there is such thing as a bomb proof wheel.... give the strongest wheel you can get to a friend of mine and he will make a mess of it in 6 months . On the other hand, they are definitely badly built wheels that go out of true with very little use / demand or suffer from spoke's metal fatigue rather early in the life of a wheel.

The OP could definitely ride a 28R and 24F but I think his priority is a set of wheels that will last long. For the sake of less than 30g he could have a set that would definitely be stronger.

 

[sackville d]

Indeed RRSODL,the 28 spoke idea is a nod to the lightweight nature of the bike they will be living on but ultimately I want a wheel that will be repairable by which i mean have new rims fitted when they wear out

 

[fossyant]

Nothing wrong with 28h hand built wheels. I run 28h CXP 33 on an old set of Dura Ace hubs on the best bike. Very robust wheels, and relatively light.

 

[Spoked Wheels]

Nothing wrong with 28h hand built wheels. I run 28h CXP 33 on an old set of Dura Ace hubs on the best bike. Very robust wheels, and relatively light.

I don't think anybody is saying 28 spokes makes a bad wheel or something wrong with them

28 spokes on the front wheel too?