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50 year olds, or thereabouts.....anyone remember........

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by betty swollocks, 25 Sep 2007.

  1. betty swollocks

    betty swollocks large member

    .......a book of folk songs used in Primary School?
    I can still remember many of the songs after all these years and would love to be able to track the book down. It was used in my school in the UK and in BFES (British Forces Education Service) schools in Germany.
    The book had a stiffened woven cover - some sort of fabric, and had a picture on the front of children playing drums, cymbals and triangles.
    Some of the songs:-

    Bobby Shaftoe's gone to sea
    Is she fit to be your wife Billy boy Billy Boy
    Oh soldier soldier won't you marry me with your musket fife and drum
    I've been to Haarlem, I've been to Dover, I've travelled this wide world all over over over

    Ring any bells anyone?
     
  2. ChrisKH

    ChrisKH Shorts Adjustment Expert

    Location:
    Essex
    Not fifty for five or so yet but we certainly sang some long forgotten songs at school; the usual religious collection (Morning has broken, Jerusalem, Lord of the Dance, etc.) but also Commonwealth songs such as Botany Bay, Wild Rover (no nae never, no nae never no more) and Waltzing Matilda. I recall the soldier soldier song also.
     
  3. No recall for this at all... the only printed thing that springs to mind were the 'Craft Cards' with how to cut and fold card and make a buttress or some military type of thing - masses of dotted lines, arrows and imperial measurements all over the place.
    I tinkled the triangle once or twice...who didn't?
     
  4. frog

    frog Guest


    Sounds like they were trying to raise an interest in Service life from a very early age :biggrin:. I wonder if your parents used to wrap your lunch in old maps as well.

    I do remember all the songs mentioned. Wouldn't mind laying my hands on a copy of the book as well :biggrin:
     
  5. rich p

    rich p ridiculous old lush

    Location:
    Brighton
    Down in Demerera
    and
    Blow, blow, blow the man down

    were also in the mix. We had a book but the songs were also piped through giant prehistoric wooden clad wirelesses.
     
  6. betty swollocks

    betty swollocks large member

    Remember the wirelesses!
    Another song:-

    There was a wee Cooper wa lived in Fife
    Nickety nackety noo noo noo
    And he had gotten a gentle wife etc. etc

    Just Googled the above first line and found this: it's not quite as I remember it:-

    The Wee Cooper O' Fife

    There was a wee cooper lived in Fife
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    And he has tae'n a gentle wife
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    2. She wouldna card and she wouldna spin
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    For shamin' o'her gentle kin
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    3. She wouldna bake and she wouldna brew
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    For spoilin' of her gentle hue
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    4. She called him a dirty Hieland whelp
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    If you want yer dinner go get it yourself
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    5. The cooper's awa tae his wool-pack
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    And lain a sheepskin across her back
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    6. I'll no thrash you for your gentle kin
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    But I will thrash my ain sheep-skin
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    7. He's laid the sheepskin across her back
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    And with a good stick he went whickety-whack
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    8. Oh I will card and I will spin
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    And think nae mair of my gentle kin!
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    9. She drew the table and spread the board
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    And "My dear husband" was every word
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.

    10. All you who have gotten a gentle wife
    Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo
    Just send ye for the cooper of Fife!
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.
     
  7. Tetedelacourse

    Tetedelacourse New Member

    Location:
    Rosyth
    Risselty-rosselty, hey, pomposity
    Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo.


    WHAT THE HELL?!

    In my world it was:

    Hey willy-wallachy hoo, john dougal alone
    Qua rushity noo noo noo

    I'm 18 years shy of 50 but I know all these songs. I particularly didn't like soldier soldier. "oh no fair maid I shall not marry thee..."
     
  8. betty swollocks

    betty swollocks large member

    Tete: that's how I recall it.
    Further googling found me this:-


    There was a wee cooper wha' lived in Fife,
    Nickety nackety, noo, noo, noo
    And he hae gotten a gentle wife,
    Hey Willie Wallacky, Ho, John Dougal,
    Alane quo' rushety roo, roo, roo.

    She wouldnae card, she wouldnae spin
    For the shaming o' her gentle kin.

    She wouldnae wash, she wouldnae wring
    For the spoiling o' her gaulden ring.

    She wouldnae bake, she wouldnae brew
    For the spoiling o' her family hue.

    She called him a dirty Hieland whelp
    If you want yer dinner go get it yourself

    The cooper hae gane tae his woolpack,
    He's laid a sheepskin across his wife's back.

    I wouldnae thrash ye for your gentle kin,
    But I would thrash my ain sheepskin!

    Oh I will card and I will spin
    And think nae mair of my gentle kin!

    Oh, I will wash and I will wring
    And think nae mair o' my gowden ring

    Oh, I will bake and I will brew
    And think nae mair o' my comely hue

    She drew the table and spread the board
    And "My dear husband" was every word

    A' ye wha hae gotten a gentle wife,
    Send ye for the wee cooper o' Fife.



    A moral tale!
     
  9. Tetedelacourse

    Tetedelacourse New Member

    Location:
    Rosyth
    Flamin eck! I had no idea!
     
  10. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Miserable Old Bar Steward

    I remember Janet and John books but not that song book
     
  11. beanzontoast

    beanzontoast Veteran

    Location:
    South of The Peaks
    "Singing Together" had many of these and is about that time (late 50's - 60's)
     
  12. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Location:
    York, UK
    We had song books, but I think they were all songs that illustrated a story. I remember a South American story which involved a song bird and two children. We put it on as an end of term show, and I was second maracas at the back, in a big cardboard sombrero...
     
  13. betty swollocks

    betty swollocks large member

    Thankyou beanz, but if this is what you're referring to, it's not it.
    The book I mean had a different cover (as in my original post - I'm certain of this) and had more songs in.
    Maybe later editions did have a different cover and more songs were added?
     
  14. Cycling Naturalist

    Cycling Naturalist Legendary Member

    Location:
    Llangollen
    Which university term was this? xx(
     
  15. ChrisKH

    ChrisKH Shorts Adjustment Expert

    Location:
    Essex
    Janet and John books - I thought my first ones in Infant School were Peter & Jane books by Ladybird graded 1a to 12b. I particularly liked the one where they built a rocket in the garden. I went through them (and re-read them) in about two weeks (as my mother had taught me to read) and the school wouldn't allow me to progress beyond the syllabus. Same in primary school.