6p off diesel and petrol for next 3 months.....

[GrumpyGregry]

Yup. And my sisters 24 feet tall too

That's awful. Does she get disability benefit? I understand such claimants are worse scum than public servants.

 

[martint235]

Was it this one?

http://swns.com/sold-for-35-million-britains-most-expensive-new-terraced-house-181112.html

Ooh I like that one. I'll be able to buy it with the lump sum I get on retirement in 11 years time. Oh no, that's wrong, in 14 years time but I won't get lump sum anymore and I've had a paycut of over 2% so I guess that house is out.

 

[martint235]

Who's still on a final salary pension?

I don't think anyone apart from MPs are now. I'm on an average salary pension.

 

[martint235]

Did it get changed or were they your terms at start date?

Changed this (? possibly last) year. And yes I'm still unhappy about it

 

[User482]

Did it get changed or were they your terms at start date?

Mine's been changed from final salary to career average.

 

[Smurfy]

Good grief! It's all kicked off again. How did that happen?

 

[Smurfy]

I think you'll find I misread your post? And edited it as soon as I spotted my mistake?

In fairness to you, if you read my post on its own without reading the preceding posts, then yes, my post would've read like a load of rubbish!

Doesn't affect my disdain for petrol heads who argue that taxes raised from motoring should only be spent on roads though. That'd be like maintaining that duties paid on whisky should only be spent on improving facilities for whisky drinkers in distilleries!

But drinking Whisky isn't a necessity

 

[Smurfy]

As I've also said before, fuel is not too expensive while people are still wasting it by flying little England flags from their car windows.

Most of the public is ignorant of this. I used to work in fluid flow, so I'm well aware that small appendages protruding into the flow contribute disproportionately to drag (e.g. wing mirrors, roof racks, little flags, mickey mouse aerial toppers). Driving with windows and sunroofs open is also very wasteful, I always use the air vents instead.

 

[Smurfy]

And the economic cost to the country of the NHS is negative.

Mysterious stuff this economics, isn't it?

Not sure what you're getting at here. Motoring related incidents certainly cost the NHS a lot of money, but they clearly don't account for the entire NHS budget.

In any case, why would anyone feel justified in singling out motoring as a major cost to the NHS? People engage in all manner of work and leisure activities which from time to time result in NHS treatment, I certainly don't feel entitled to single out any particular activity for criticism.

 

[User482]

In any case, why would anyone feel justified in singling out motoring as a major cost to the NHS?

Because it's a major cost to the NHS.

 

[Smurfy]

Because it's a major cost to the NHS.

That is an insufficient justification. No doubt speleological related leisure pursuits do not result in very many NHS admissions. However, that is hardly surprising, as speleology is very much a minority interest, whereas a very large proportion of UK households own a car and drive it every day.

 

[User482]

That is an insufficient justification.

No it isn't. It's a major cost which needs to be paid for. It would be better if fuel duty were higher - that way we could be more sure that victims weren't subsidising perpetrators.

 

[martint235]

Most of the public is ignorant of this. I used to work in fluid flow, so I'm well aware that small appendages protruding into the flow contribute disproportionately to drag (e.g. wing mirrors, roof racks, little flags, mickey mouse aerial toppers). Driving with windows and sunroofs open is also very wasteful, I always use the air vents instead.

This just backs up my point that fuel is not yet too expensive. If it was, then the public would actually be making themselves aware of these things.

 

[srw]

Who's still on a final salary pension?

Please sir, me sir! Private sector, final salary, still accruing.

 

[srw]

Not sure what you're getting at here. Motoring related incidents certainly cost the NHS a lot of money, but they clearly don't account for the entire NHS budget.

In any case, why would anyone feel justified in singling out motoring as a major cost to the NHS? People engage in all manner of work and leisure activities which from time to time result in NHS treatment, I certainly don't feel entitled to single out any particular activity for criticism.

Forgive me for pointing it out, but if you want to know why anyone would feel justified in singling out motoring as a major cost to the NHS, I suggest you ask the person who first brought the NHS budget into the discussion. You may need to find a mirror to do so, of course.

Like I said, despite its £100bn budget, the economic cost to the country of the NHS is negative. And once you've got your head around that you'll have no difficulty in working out how the economic cost to the country of motoring is bigger than the size of the NHS budget.