6p off diesel and petrol for next 3 months.....

[Smurfy]

No it isn't. It's a major cost which needs to be paid for. It would be better if fuel duty were higher - that way we could be more sure that victims weren't subsidising perpetrators.

Do you have any evidence that 'victims' are subsidising 'perpetrators'? I think it's highly unlikely that this is the case. Firstly, there is provision for recovering NHS treatment costs from the insurers of motorists. Secondly, one would have to assume that a relatively large proportion of NHS expenditure is on treatment of Road Traffic Accident victims, and I'm pretty sure that isn't the case, not least because of the first point I mentioned.

Forgive me for pointing it out, but if you want to know why anyone would feel justified in singling out motoring as a major cost to the NHS, I suggest you ask the person who first brought the NHS budget into the discussion. You may need to find a mirror to do so, of course.

Like I said, despite its £100bn budget, the economic cost to the country of the NHS is negative. And once you've got your head around that you'll have no difficulty in working out how the economic cost to the country of motoring is bigger than the size of the NHS budget.

You are playing with words. Have you considered a career as a politician?

 

[srw]

Do you have any evidence that 'victims' are subsidising 'perpetrators'? I think it's highly unlikely that this is the case. Firstly, there is provision for recovering NHS treatment costs from the insurers of motorists. Secondly, one would have to assume that a relatively large proportion of NHS expenditure is on treatment of Road Traffic Accident victims, and I'm pretty sure that isn't the case, not least because of the first point I mentioned.



You are playing with words. Have you considered a career as a politician?

I'll take all that to mean that tyou are still thinking quite narrowly. Think bigger about victims, costs and benefits.

 

[User482]

Do you have any evidence that 'victims' are subsidising 'perpetrators'? I think it's highly unlikely that this is the case. Firstly, there is provision for recovering NHS treatment costs from the insurers of motorists. Secondly, one would have to assume that a relatively large proportion of NHS expenditure is on treatment of Road Traffic Accident victims, and I'm pretty sure that isn't the case, not least because of the first point I mentioned.



You are playing with words. Have you considered a career as a politician?

If you think that RTAs are the only cost motoring presents to the nhs then you are even more blinkered than I thought.

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2029632, member: 9609"]Without motorised transport I doubt we would have an economy, let alone an NHS.[/quote]
Yes we would. It would likely be a similar standard to those living in the Sudan

 

[User482]

Yes we would. It would likely be a similar standard to those living in the Sudan

They have cars in poor countries. Have you ever visited one?

 

[Drago]

Visited a car or a poor country?

 

[al78]

[QUOTE 2029632, member: 9609"]Without motorised transport I doubt we would have an economy, let alone an NHS.[/quote]

Yes we would, it would consist of lots of localized economies.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Yes we would, it would consist of lots of localized economies.

... and more boats ...

 

[Linford]

They have cars in poor countries. Have you ever visited one?

You manage to have very forthright opinions of cars despite not owning one. If the stats are to be believed there are 3 cars for every 100 people in the Sudan - I've not been there, but have no reason to not believe this. It isn't tourist central Is it

 

[srw]

[QUOTE 2029632, member: 9609"]Without motorised transport I doubt we would have an economy, let alone an NHS.[/quote]
Not true, and not relevant to the negative impact of motoring on the country.

 

[Linford]

Not true, and not relevant to the negative impact of motoring on the country.

Any stats to 'prove' this assertion ?

Its people you don't want around you isn't it. Bloody annoying - the lot of them

 

[User482]

You manage to have very forthright opinions of cars despite not owning one. If the stats are to be believed there are 3 cars for every 100 people in the Sudan - I've not been there, but have no reason to not believe this. It isn't tourist central Is it

A response that is factually incorrect and fails to answer the question. I doubt you have the capacity to imagine my surprise.

 

[Linford]

A response that is factually incorrect and fails to answer the question. I doubt you have the capacity to imagine my surprise.

Which bit ?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Please sir, me sir! Private sector, final salary, still accruing.

Actually I've got one of those too, left over from my private sector days.

 

[Linford]

Actually I've got one of those too, left over from my private sector days.

You work in the public sector ? - I think we need a show of hands for this one. I think I'm in the minority for those who don't.