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Pale Rider

Pale Rider

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Its more to do with effort for the climb, if its got enough power for him to not struggle

Either motor should have enough power, but Bosch motors are not balls of fire.

I expect the motor you have is more pokey.

He may find the climb requires a low gear, so he won't be climbing a great deal faster than on a push bike, just easier.

I've ridden with lots of CycleChat roadies.

Many of them can climb faster than me if they attack the gradient.
 
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Pale Rider

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I'd buy from country with speed unaltered. I have relatives in Europe and USA

Probably no need.

I expect any Scott dealer would order the Speed Pedelec version for you.

Buying and selling, in other words, possessing, the bike is not illegal.

What you cannot do is, realistically, is ride it anywhere legally unless it's registered as a light motorcycle.

It has to be private land to which the public has no access, which rules out all roads, cycle paths, and mountain bike trails.

A gated compound or field - with no footpaths or rights of way across it - would qualify, but few of us own such land.

Or if we do, it's too small to be of any use, such as a back garden.
 

CXRAndy

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Probably no need.

I expect any Scott dealer would order the Speed Pedelec version for you.

Buying and selling, in other words, possessing, the bike is not illegal.

What you cannot do is, realistically, is ride it anywhere legally unless it's registered as a light motorcycle.

It has to be private land to which the public has no access, which rules out all roads, cycle paths, and mountain bike trails.

A gated compound or field - with no footpaths or rights of way across it - would qualify, but few of us own such land.

Or if we do, it's too small to be of any use, such as a back garden.


Looking at the regulations, if you were to do it properly.

Ensure you have moped or better motorcycle license.

Aquire S(speed) Pedelec upto 28mph <1000 Watts continuous power

Comply with conformity regulations- Bike needs CE sticker with details of power/speed Not a problem with manufactured products

Register bike with DVLA L1E-A category

Get registration plate

Get insurance

Get moped quality helmet

There are companies that will do all registration for you(when buying their supplied bike).

Owner needs to sort insurance and helmet.

It would be interesting to see what prices come back for insurance

EDIT. This website describe the process, https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/advice/advice/buying-and-riding-an-s-pedelec-in-the-uk-1637

It about £200 approximately to get your Pedelec registered and insured, if you currently have moped or motorcycle license.

If you have post 2001 driving license then a CBT license is required.
 
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Pale Rider

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Looking at the regulations, if you were to do it properly.

Ensure you have moped or better motorcycle license.

Aquire S(speed) Pedelec upto 28mph <1000 Watts continuous power

Comply with conformity regulations- Bike needs CE sticker with details of power/speed Not a problem with manufactured products

Register bike with DVLA L1E-A category

Get registration plate

Get insurance

Get moped quality helmet

There are companies that will do all registration for you(when buying their supplied bike).

Owner needs to sort insurance and helmet.

It would be interesting to see what prices come back for insurance

EDIT. This website describe the process, https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/advice/advice/buying-and-riding-an-s-pedelec-in-the-uk-1637

It about £200 approximately to get your Pedelec registered and insured, if you currently have moped or motorcycle license.

If you have post 2001 driving license then a CBT license is required.

That appears to be the strength of it.

Someone elsewhere on the internet managed to do it, although it took him several months.

The resulting 'bicycle' had a rear registration plate.

Something of a dead loss because you then cannot use it on cycle paths/lanes or dedicated mountain bike trails.

Better off buying a petrol moped which would be faster and cheaper.
 

Smudge

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Looking at the regulations, if you were to do it properly.

Ensure you have moped or better motorcycle license.

Aquire S(speed) Pedelec upto 28mph <1000 Watts continuous power

Comply with conformity regulations- Bike needs CE sticker with details of power/speed Not a problem with manufactured products

Register bike with DVLA L1E-A category

Get registration plate

Get insurance

Get moped quality helmet

There are companies that will do all registration for you(when buying their supplied bike).

Owner needs to sort insurance and helmet.

It would be interesting to see what prices come back for insurance

EDIT. This website describe the process, https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/advice/advice/buying-and-riding-an-s-pedelec-in-the-uk-1637

It about £200 approximately to get your Pedelec registered and insured, if you currently have moped or motorcycle license.

If you have post 2001 driving license then a CBT license is required.

So go through all that, just to get an extra 12.5 mph on the motors cut off speed. Plus drastically reduced battery range. Plus you can only use it on the public highway and not legally use it on canal paths, cycle paths & tracks.
I wonder how many people here in the uk has bothered to actually do that.
 

CXRAndy

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So go through all that, just to get an extra 12.5 mph on the motors cut off speed. Plus drastically reduced battery range. Plus you can only use it on the public highway and not legally use it on canal paths, cycle paths & tracks.
I wonder how many people here in the uk has bothered to actually do that.

Very few I suspect. Only dedicated commuters with load and speed requirements.

That's why there is a thriving non conforming ebike community

The actual 12.5mph boost is significant, lifting speed to comfortably match town vehicle speeds. So holding centre line like motorcycles would be normal
 

Smudge

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No, no, the idea is to eliminate pollution.

I agree about speed, but 28mph is a fair lick for a push bike.

Can these bikes push nearly 28 mph going up gradients ?

Hill climbing is all about how much torque the motor has, not the motor cut off speed.
 

Smudge

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Very few I suspect. Only dedicated commuters with load and speed requirements.

That's why there is a thriving non conforming ebike community

The actual 12.5mph boost is significant, lifting speed to comfortably match town vehicle speeds. So holding centre line like motorcycles would be normal

Well thats another way of saying illegal i suppose.
 
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Pale Rider

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No, no, the idea is to eliminate pollution.

I agree about speed, but 28mph is a fair lick for a push bike.

Can these bikes push nearly 28 mph going up gradients ?

I've ridden a Speed Pedelec and the experience is a little under whelming.

The motor is no more powerful, the only difference is the cut off speed.

Ebike motors are built for torque, not speed, so the assistance over 15.5mph is relatively small.

It does make a difference, but I doubt many cyclists would have the power to cruise on one at 25mph on the flat.

No extra speed to be had on climbs, unless you could do the climb at more than 15.5mph on a legal ebike.
 
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