A close shave tonight with a car :-(

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Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
Glad you are OK, had my own near miss on Friday. Cycling past the entrance of a car park I was _directly_ in front of a car and they started to drive into the road straight into me, I think only my yell and the car behind beeping woke them up. God know what they were doing
 

numbnuts

Legendary Member
I had a close shave last night, well it wasn't a shave more like an epilator
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
What you are proposing / implying is entirely unrealistic for all road users (other than pedestrians whose speed is slower and thus stopping/direction changing ability better). I suggest that cycling or driving round every bend thinking 'I'd better go round this really slowly so I can stop if someone pulls out from a turning' is a hard way to live one's life on the road.
It's easy. It's not "really slowly" on "every bend" but it's "slowly enough that I can stop if someone pulls out from a place I can't yet see".

I will cycle/drive at a speed (and in a position on the road (laterally) where I can stop or avoid if there's another road user, or an obstruction in the road.
Avoiding is good enough. The op collided, though. I don't understand why.

If a car is waiting to turn out, its front wheel (trim) will show whether it's moving or not, and one can often see the driver's eyes (ie whether he/she is looking your way) - and adopt suitable speed/precautions till you're safely past. But allowing for a car pulling out of a turning you can't see . . . . . ?
Eyes are lies. Watch the wheels. And yes, allow for mad shoot happening on the bit of road you can't yet see.
 
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johnnyb47

johnnyb47

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Location
Wales
There's to many variables to point a blame on anybody to be honest. I could be at blame for coming round the corner to quickly, The driver could be at blame for prioritizing on looking left as the final check before moving off when the greater hazard was from the traffic coming from the right.You could blame the nursing home for not putting up a round mirror on the opposite side of the road so visitors can safely pull out knowing the road is clear from the right. Either way, nobody was hurt and everything was dealt with in a civil and polite way. She did say she would have a word with the owners of the property to put a mirror up, and at the end of the day that's all you can hope for..
She will no doubt be a little more cautious exiting and i will be more aware when cycling around there again.
No harm done and just another thing to put down to experience in life.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Drivers don't see people on straight roads, so rubbish happens. Drivers don't look. If someone pulls out right in-front of you, you can't stop quick enough.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I thought of something this evening when I was riding round a blind bend ...

If you go too quickly then you might hit something that you haven't seen round the bend. If you go too slowly then you might become the something that the person behind you hits! :whistle:

So, my choice is to go at a 'reasonable' speed to give me a decent chance of stopping or avoiding hidden dangers, but to also give anyone behind me a reasonable chance of not hitting me.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
There's to many variables to point a blame on anybody to be honest. I could be at blame for coming round the corner to quickly, The driver could be at blame for prioritizing on looking left as the final check before moving off when the greater hazard was from the traffic coming from the right.You could blame the nursing home for not putting up a round mirror on the opposite side of the road so visitors can safely pull out knowing the road is clear from the right. Either way, nobody was hurt and everything was dealt with in a civil and polite way. She did say she would have a word with the owners of the property to put a mirror up, and at the end of the day that's all you can hope for..
She will no doubt be a little more cautious exiting and i will be more aware when cycling around there again.
No harm done and just another thing to put down to experience in life.
Have you contacted the nursing home to suggest the placement of a mirror?
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
If you go too slowly then you might become the something that the person behind you hits! :whistle:
That's known as "fear from the rear" and isn't anywhere near as common as most people think. With how much faster bikes can take tight bends, I humbly suggest you're unlikely to go around a tight enough bend to have visibility problems slowly enough for a following motorist to catch you and make contact.
 

si_c

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Location
Wirral
This highlights why lane positioning is important. On tighter bends you should take a primary line which puts you as wide as possible, hugging the curb is a recipe for disaster, you can't see around the bend, and people can't see you coming around the bend.

In a car you are by default in that outside position with the best view so you don't have to think about it.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
This highlights why lane positioning is important. On tighter bends you should take a primary line which puts you as wide as possible, hugging the curb is a recipe for disaster, you can't see around the bend, and people can't see you coming around the bend.

In a car you are by default in that outside position with the best view so you don't have to think about it.
I ride round such bends well out in the road, but vigilant and ready to dive to the left if I am unlucky enough to encounter a lunatic overtaker coming straight at me.

It's not just overtakers though ...

I had a car come round a bend straight at me because the driver was busy looking at magnificent scenery to his left.

I worry about meeting a tourist coming the other way who had forgotten that we drive on the left (a friend on holiday in Spain forgot that they drive on the right and descended a mountain on the left :eek:).

Then there is plain stupidity ... There is a very fast descent in Hebden Bridge down to a very tight LH bend (Birchcliffe Road).

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One impatient driver decided to save time by cutting across the bend directly in front of me. I was far enough out in the road to spot him doing it and was able to dive into the small gap that he had left me, missing the side of his car by inches.
 
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si_c

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Wirral
I ride round such bends well out in the road, but vigilant and ready to dive to the left if I am unlucky enough to encounter a lunatic overtaker coming straight at me.

It's not just overtakers though ...

I had a car come round a bend straight at me because the driver was busy looking at magnificent scenery to his left.

I worry about meeting a tourist coming the other way who had forgotten that we drive on the left (a friend on holiday in Spain forgot that they drive on the right and descended a mountain on the left :eek:).

Then there is plain stupidity ... There is a very fast descent in Hebden Bridge down to a very tight LH bend (Birchcliffe Road).

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One impatient driver decided to save time by cutting across the bend directly in front of me. I was far enough out in the road to spot him doing it and was able to dive into the small gap that he had left me, missing the side of his car by inches.

I totally misread the name of that road.
 
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Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
I had a driver pull out to the center white line waiting to turn right.
I managed to stop a few inches short of her door incredibly she still had not seen me.

As she continued to look left I tapped on the window which startled the life out of her.How anyone could pull out without looking is amazing to me but sadly its all too common.
 
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