DCLane
Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
- Location
- Dewsbury, West Yorkshire
There's the house opposite your sign. I wonder who owns the land/pillars?
Also, a van parked there may solve the issue
Also, a van parked there may solve the issue
The pillars belong to my next door neighbour, he's a git and wont let me put signs on them, I do have an A-board type sign on the pavement there but I need one on the other side of the road too to catch peoples attention as they drive towards my neighbour. The potential issue with the van idea is blocking the access to my property, particulalry for delivery vehicles. I know I can run up and down moving it. My idea at the moment is to mount the sign on something like a Heras fence panel which will be much thinner than what I currently have the sign mounted on, which I can then line up with their boundary, hopefully this would not restrict access too much, would keep my sign down the end of the road and they couldn't ask me to move it either.There's the house opposite your sign. I wonder who owns the land/pillars?
Also, a van parked there may solve the issue
Almost certainly not, but then as I haven't either that may not be the best route to go down.I wonder if they've got planning permission for their own sign.
I suspect that would make little or no difference, since this would almost certainly be the reality:It might be worth looking to see if you are protected by the 1954 Landlord and Tenant Act. If you were then they would need to give you six months notice to remove the sign.
It looks like you've had a decent run with the previous manager, but that's run out now, and the bottom line is there's really not a lot you can do. You talk about mounting a sign on a fence panel, which isn't on your neighbour's land...well, whose land would it be on, and would they let you put it there? Try it by all means, but I'd be surprised if you were able to get something up that would stay around for long. Looks to me like you need to start focusing your thinking elsewhere. Assuming the sign's a gonner - now what? If you'll no longer be able to rely on passing trade - which seems likely - what else can you do to get customers in? You mentioned 'customers sent to us by various fitters' - is there anything you can do to build that side of things up? Maybe ring all the fitters in yellow pages and offer them a kickback if they recommend you? Or advertising in the local paper, or in shop windows? I don't know. It just feels to me like you're trying to shore up a temporary arrangement that's run its course and in truth can't be saved, and that you'd be better off trying to take a step back and look at the thing in other ways.Ultimately the manager will do what he wants whether it's legal or not. Then it will be up to you to pursue him through the courts
Mostly agree with what you're saying in that I disagree that it can't be saved. It's going to take a bit of thinking outside the box for sure but I am confident that something will be done to encourage customers. Advertising is actually something of an issue, as I mentioned above the big issue is potential customers driving straight past our turning, whether they be specifically looking for us or visiting next door. As a result any advertising we do is effectively advertising our neighbours.I suspect that would make little or no difference, since this would almost certainly be the reality:
It looks like you've had a decent run with the previous manager, but that's run out now, and the bottom line is there's really not a lot you can do. You talk about mounting a sign on a fence panel, which isn't on your neighbour's land...well, whose land would it be on, and would they let you put it there? Try it by all means, but I'd be surprised if you were able to get something up that would stay around for long. Looks to me like you need to start focusing your thinking elsewhere. Assuming the sign's a gonner - now what? If you'll no longer be able to rely on passing trade - which seems likely - what else can you do to get customers in? You mentioned 'customers sent to us by various fitters' - is there anything you can do to build that side of things up? Maybe ring all the fitters in yellow pages and offer them a kickback if they recommend you? Or advertising in the local paper, or in shop windows? I don't know. It just feels to me like you're trying to shore up a temporary arrangement that's run its course and in truth can't be saved, and that you'd be better off trying to take a step back and look at the thing in other ways.
Well, that took me a lot of hunting to see. I'd be putting directions and a simple little map on a sign on/at the roundabout end of the building, plus chaining a sign including "←+ 1st Right" to the Magdalene Road sign on the corner. It also looks worth asking the shop(?) on the other corner if you could put a similar simple map sign on one of their blanked-out windows. An estate-agent style board with an arrow on it on either number 15 or 17 might help, too.What about a better sign on the main road junctions off, with directions? You could stick a bigger / better / more evident one on Pembroke Road than the brown one there at present.
Oh come on, why's the arrow on the sign on the corner in black and can you drag that skip bag away from blocking sight of it?This is what we have currently, mine to the right, their's to the left;
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That area is exactly what I'm looking at, something tallerand more noticable than is currently there.That little space by the bollards is all you're going to get I'd think, get a sign that won't blow around and make sure it's facing the traffic.
In response to your question, I'm not sure of the actual law. Put it this way - if they did move your sign - would you report it to the police? If so, why? And what would you expect them to do about it, and what would you think they would ACTUALLY do about it? Not being rude, but no-one would care unless he threw it through your window/at your car etc.