A 'Proper 'D Lock - ?

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simongt

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Norwich
Squire are advertising a new D lock; the Stronghold D16 Max, which they purport to be 'proven to destroy multiple angle grinder discs'. :okay:
Good for them, but wonder how long it will be before some wee skank proves them wrong - ? :dry:
 

DaveReading

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Reading, obvs
 

PaulSB

Squire
I'm sure such a lock has its purpose somewhere for locking something but for a bike? No. I wouldn't carry that weight around to secure my bike nor would I leave my bike openly stored/parked somewhere to warrant a lock of this cost.

If one's bike is sufficiently valuable to warrant a £300 lock a thief will find a way to steal the bike or at least the parts which are not locked - wheels, bars, seat etc.
 

Sixmile

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N Ireland
I'm sure such a lock has its purpose somewhere for locking something but for a bike? No. I wouldn't carry that weight around to secure my bike nor would I leave my bike openly stored/parked somewhere to warrant a lock of this cost.

If one's bike is sufficiently valuable to warrant a £300 lock a thief will find a way to steal the bike or at least the parts which are not locked - wheels, bars, seat etc.

Plenty of folk do, parking their £4 or £5k ebikes on public streets. If I owned one and 'had' to, I'd be getting the most expensive/quality lock I could find. This one under c2w would be under £200. I've had my d locks for years and years so mightn't be a bad investment in the long term if you need to regularly leave your bike in the open.
 
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Squire are advertising a new D lock; the Stronghold D16 Max, which they purport to be 'proven to destroy multiple angle grinder discs'. :okay:
Good for them, but wonder how long it will be before some wee skank proves them wrong - ? :dry:

How long has it been out there in the shops? It is likely that some magazine tech expert is at it right now with the tools of the trade!! I used to know a good website on lock safety. It had good info on how locks coped with different attack modes. Apparently IIRC they used ex bike thieves and other techies to crack the locks with the specialist tricks of the trade as well as the more opportunist tools of the trade. Cannot recall now where the site is or what it was called. I found it interesting at the time.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I've seen e-cargo bikes parked up with D locks or chains on them and felt a bit stressed on behalf of the owners. £300 for an insanely strong D lock (if that's true) would be worth it for a bike like that.
 
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simongt

simongt

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Location
Norwich
I've seen e-cargo bikes parked up with D locks or chains on them and felt a bit stressed on behalf of the owners. £300 for an insanely strong D lock (if that's true) would be worth it for a bike like that.
According to one 'authority', one needs to spend about 10% of the value of the bike on a lock.
Interesting idea - ? :whistle:
 
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simongt

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Norwich
What you spend on a lock is partly based on the value of the bike and partly on how risk-averse you are.
When I 'inherited' the GLWs Giant Halfway a few years ago, I bought a motorcycle chain lock for it.
The Halfway is long gone, replaced by a Brompton M3 which now has said chain lock for it's safekeeping. :okay:
 

geocycle

Legendary Member
Maybe it is aimed at the e-bike market. At nearly 3 kg I’d not want to carry it anywhere without a motor.
 

Bristolian

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Location
Bristol, UK
To my mind the purpose of a bike lock is two-fold. Firstly, to deter the thief in the hope there's a less secure bike close by and secondly, so that the insurance company will cough up when it does get stolen. On the basis that if a thief wants your bike he/she/it will find a way to have it away then only the second purpose is of importance, so the cheapest lock that fits the insurance company's requirements is good enough.
 
To my mind the purpose of a bike lock is two-fold. Firstly, to deter the thief in the hope there's a less secure bike close by and secondly, so that the insurance company will cough up when it does get stolen. On the basis that if a thief wants your bike he/she/it will find a way to have it away then only the second purpose is of importance, so the cheapest lock that fits the insurance company's requirements is good enough.

Yes - this is the main point to me
If the lock is good enough that the insurance will pay up with no problem
then you go home by bus and it is New Bike Time!!

That's just the way it is

especially with ebikes - as if you get a new bike then it will be better than the old one
and especially you get a new battery as the old one will always have some of its life taken out of it

not nice - but if you have to leave your bike in a dodgy area then this is the only way to think
If the thief wants the bike - then they will find a way to get it is they have the tools
most bike racks i have seen don;t look like they would survive a good hacksaw if you had time
and I have seen one or two help down by bolts!!!
 
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