A Question on fault

[asterix]

Also don't think i'm being cheeky. I'm just challenging points understand more deeply. Although I get it.
No doubt Marmion has took a bi**h fit. Which is slightly amusing.

No, I think he's right in principle. Whilst you can do as much as you can to allow for the idiot behind you, i.e. allow more space in front if you have a tailgater, at the end of the day and in the final analysis, you should be able to stop with in the distance you can see ahead. Otherwise one day it may well be bye-bye Cycling Dan! I met a guy who hit a lorry like you describe, hit it so hard he took off its rear axle. Despite all the medical care in the world it was clear that neither physically nor mentally would he be the same again.

 

[Cycling Dan]

[QUOTE 2907709, member: 9609"]Yes, truck driver for pulling out and causing accident with first car, and you for crashing into the accident.
May be the first driver gets off as he may not have had time to react and stop. But your further back and had more time react and should have been able to stop in time.

If it is just your first offence I will be very lenient - 9 points, £5000 fine and car crushed -[/quote]
How lenient of you govna.
Wait a moment while I file this appeal to have it reduced to maybe a driving course since I'm a motorist or is it required a cyclist to be involved for such harshness from the appeal court.

 

[Cycling Dan]

[QUOTE 2907781, member: 9609"]For me to consider an appeal I will need to know the colour of your blood "Black n White" or "Red n White" ?[/quote]
Haha, I'm a hybrid as I'm indifferent.
Although one could say the cat caught the bird and destroyed it!!

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Another one of my thoughts where I cant seem to find an answer myself.

So say you are on a 60mph road single lane A road. Its one of them A roads with side turn offs.
You are following a car in front were both of you are doing 60mph and you are keeping a 3 second gap.
A truck pulls out one of the side roads and the car in front hits it coming to a complete stop due to the truck being fully loaded. The truck now blocks the entire road so there is no going around.
You brake as hard as you can but hit the car in front.
Do you hold any blame?
From what I can tell at 60mph it takes around 65m to come to a complete stop depending on car. So the only way not to hit the car is to travel 65m back to be able to stop in time.
So do you hold any blame for going into the back of the car

Yes.

60mph = 26.822 m/s

If you were keeping a 3 sec gap, you'd be 80.4 metres back giving you 7 metres more than the theoretical stopping distance, so why would you hit the other car?


GC

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Also don't think i'm being cheeky. I'm just challenging points to understand more deeply. Although I get it.
No doubt Marmion has took a bi**h fit. Which is slightly amusing.

I have no idea why you would think that, other than it's the type of behaviour you are used to yourself.
There is no "3 second rule" it's just stuff that you have attached more meaning to than is intended - I am merely pointing out that you'll die soon enough if you try to apply your thinking to situations where it is evident that some thinking is required.

It's your life, feel free to end it anyway you like; I'd rather you didn't but it's your choices to either listen to others with more experience and knowledge (I'd imagine that's why you started the thread, to get opinions, rather than to argue a point on which you are incorrect) or to carry on being wrong

 

[Cycling Dan]

I have no idea why you would think that, other than it's the type of behaviour you are used to yourself.
There is no "3 second rule" it's just stuff that you have attached more meaning to than is intended - I am merely pointing out that you'll die soon enough if you try to apply your thinking to situations where it is evident that some thinking is required.

It's your life, feel free to end it anyway you like; I'd rather you didn't but it's your choices to either listen to others with more experience and knowledge (I'd imagine that's why you started the thread, to get opinions, rather than to argue a point on which you are incorrect) or to carry on being wrong

Refer to previous post.......
If you can't find it I asked a question for a factual response then challenged areas I didn't fully get in order to understand them. You know that aspect of life called learning and developing a greater sense of understanding.Anyhow besides the point you're the one who has gone off topic with this whole death malarky. Unless actual death is no longer expect from theoretical situations and question based threads. Get a grip.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

If you apply your theory in real situations you will die.

Just trying to stop you ending up deid!

 

[Cycling Dan]

If you apply your theory in real situations you will die.

Just trying to stop you ending up deid!

I have no thesis to apply.
Also there is a very big difference to applying and questioning. You have jumped to gun to assume by question such a situation that I apply the same in my driving.
For example If I question the legality of murder does not mean I actually murder.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Fair enough, happy driving.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

[QUOTE 2907709, member: 9609"]If it is just your first offence I will be very lenient - 9 points, £5000 fine and car crushed -[/quote]
I'll be more lenient than that, I'll only give you 6 points, but as you've had your licence for less than 2 years you've just lost it anyway.

Alan...

 

[Mugshot]

HTH

 

[CopperBrompton]

Stopping Distances. Drive at a speed that will allow you to stop well within the distance you can see to be clear.

Or, on a single-track lane, be able to stop in half the distance you can see to be clear.

 

[asterix]

This thread demonstrates why when computerisation is developed and they take over 'the driving wheel', it will be a good thing.

 

[Cycling Dan]

This thread demonstrates why when computerisation is developed and they take over 'the driving wheel', it will be a good thing.

Yes that is what we need to improve safety. A computerized program which is liner to the person who designed it taking total control, Great Idea. A plane can fly itself from start to end but there is a reason that their are still pilots.

 

[green1]

This thread demonstrates why when computerisation is developed and they take over 'the driving wheel', it will be a good thing.

Until the computer crashes/freezes/says no.