Advice - RTA resulting in significant injury

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midlife

Guru
Aye, a reg and one of our second year students (I work for the uni at Ninewells) cleared their Monday morning to expertly sew me up. Have expressed my deepest thanks to them.

Dental hospital is next to take over repairing my ruined dentures.

The NHS is the single greatest thing on earth.

Glad you got the oral rehab angle sorted. Say hello to the restorative team in Dundee from the restorative mob (me) here in Carlisle :smile:

Cheers

Shaun
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Ouch. Take the driver to the cleaners. Stick to what you remember and write it down. Lying toerags most of them.

Nothing worse than bashing up your teeth.

Take it easy.
 

spen666

Legendary Member
As a road user, you should be able to stop your vehicle (motorised or otherwise) without running into the back of another vehicle.

I am sorry to sound negative, but it appears to me on your account that:
1. You were failing to pay proper attention to what was ahead of you
2. You were riding to fast / too close to vehicle in front and unable to stop in time

The fact the driver may/ may not have stopped where he should not have does not change the fact you should have been in control of your vehicle so as to stop before riding into the back of a parked vehicle.

It is unfortunate, but on your version of events, it seems to me that you are liable for the damage caused to his vehicle, and without any evidence to the contrary, you would be hard pushed to prove otherwise.

Remember also this is a civil claim not a criminal case
 
As a road user, you should be able to stop your vehicle (motorised or otherwise) without running into the back of another vehicle.

I am sorry to sound negative, but it appears to me on your account that:
1. You were failing to pay proper attention to what was ahead of you
2. You were riding to fast / too close to vehicle in front and unable to stop in time

The fact the driver may/ may not have stopped where he should not have does not change the fact you should have been in control of your vehicle so as to stop before riding into the back of a parked vehicle.

It is unfortunate, but on your version of events, it seems to me that you are liable for the damage caused to his vehicle, and without any evidence to the contrary, you would be hard pushed to prove otherwise.

Remember also this is a civil claim not a criminal case
I wish you'd read the original posting before making such negative statements.

"The car driver pulled out of the junction pretty much on top of me then came to a halt in a bus stop/cycle lane in front of me causing me to ride into the back of the car."

Which would make it not the cyclist's fault, and a traffic offence for the driver. Unfortunately, with head injuries and some memory loss, it's going to hard to prove that happened if the driver chooses to deny it.
 
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dhd.evans

dhd.evans

Veteran
Location
Dundee
You've misread, but yes I am at fault by definition.

My solicitor agrees with this but we will be pushing for 50/50 liability to ensure I'm not paying out for this one - basic principle seeing as a dinged car is superseded by a mangled face, missing teeth and destroyed tongue. In my opinion.
 
You've misread, but yes I am at fault by definition.

My solicitor agrees with this but we will be pushing for 50/50 liability to ensure I'm not paying out for this one - basic principle seeing as a dinged car is superseded by a mangled face, missing teeth and destroyed tongue. In my opinion.

Bollox, driver pulled out and stopped. Cyclist went into back of stupid driver = driver 100% fault.

Is there something I am missing? Why is the solicitor saying 50/50 if this is the case?
 
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dhd.evans

dhd.evans

Veteran
Location
Dundee
Because there are no independent witnesses I expect.

Exxxxxxactly. But yeah, you run into a vehicle regardless of damage you're 100% liable.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
IT's tricky legally. Go get yourself photos/google images of the junction and accident location and this can help work out how little room the driver left.

If you have his address you could easily plot the likely journey. The guy that hit me, had pulled out onto the main road, then turned right across me. He'd been in his car less than a minute, and probably half asleep.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I've had something similar to TMN, where they go past, realise there is no room and slam on. Fortunately I've slammed on too. I've had a van do that right next to me, I slammed on, shouted, then he slammed on. He was still level, so I was considering bouncing off the side of the van trying to corner with him.

It's quite a common accident situation, but the way it works is it's considered partly your fault. It's your solicitors job to mitigate this, but the other party should be proving their innocence. Why we have to go into so much detail and they don't is beyond me.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
I'd be asking why given what happened, am I being held to blame?

T-boned and I was put at fault for landing on the bonnet, pushing it down. Driver said I was at fault because I damaged the car.(Amongst other excuses given).
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
The world is full of lying toe rags though.

I've been bending over backwards (OK I can't actually do it very well) to provide evidence. We've got side damage on my bike, side damage on me, Garmin GPS data, google maps and google earth photos of the location etc, and detailed statements. The driver just said, turned right and hit cyclist coming down the outside (filtering in opposite lane). He actually never saw me and I was in primary when he hit me. That's all the account the driver has given. Police report confirms damage to his front bumper on the nearside, which so happens to match my scratched side of the carbon forks. But, the driver has done nothing else.
 
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