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Another hill question

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by cyclebum, 18 Sep 2007.

  1. cyclebum

    cyclebum Senior Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    When it comes to hills I've had a go at the cadence thing and am convinced for me on smaller hills it is much better., but what about the bigger ones. We have some near us I am dying to tackle but want to get it right.
    I have been told only to come out of the saddle when I really need to,but when do I know when to go for it, too soon and I get knackered after only a few peddles, but too late and I could come to a grinding halt.
    Also I do quite a lot of Xbiking, (like spinning but apparently harder!) and we have 3 basic positions, sitting standing and hover. I have never tried to hover while out on my bike as I am not sure when it is appropriate. Is is more for road bike users as I have a MTB??????;):wacko:;)
     
  2. alicat

    alicat Guru

    Location:
    Staffs
    Cyclebum

    I think you're doing too much theorising and not enough hill-climbing. Go ride lots of hills and you will soon find out what is right for you.

    I for one having never heard of hovering in a cycling context but you could always give it a try out on the road and see how it works. Perhaps best to pick a time when A & E is likely to be quiet....
     
  3. yenrod

    yenrod Guest

    'bum - go for the higher cadence (an easier gear in the 1st instance than you realise:tongue:) and occasionally out the saddle...if you can hover, like ALI' points out, maybe you can advise me on this one ;)
     
  4. ChrisW

    ChrisW Senior Member

    And if you get the bike to hover as well maybe you can keep us all informed ;)
     
  5. PrettyboyTim

    PrettyboyTim New Member

    Location:
    Brighton
    Apparently it only works if you have a Mr. Atomic installed that can provde 1.21 gigawatts of energy...
     
  6. postman

    postman Legendary Member

    Location:
    Meanwood ,Leeds
    Hover-Iread a book on levitation yesterday it kept me up all night.
     
  7. asterix

    asterix Comrade Member

    Location:
    Limoges or York
    ..you couldn't put it down?
     
  8. OP
    OP
    cyclebum

    cyclebum Senior Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Thanks for these responses. Maybe I am theorising so much, but in the past I have found I have wasted too much energy for too long by not doing things right eg: I thought I would get fitter faster by struggling in the highest gears possible at all times, all I got was very frustrated at my lack of progress and very sore legs.
    As to 'hovering' sorry I assumed it was a technical cycling term but obviously not. Basically, rather than standing or putting the weight more to the front, the bum is over the back of the seat but low so the back is much flatter. Is someone now going to say 'oh you mean........'???!!!
     
  9. alicat

    alicat Guru

    Location:
    Staffs
    Cyclebum

    I was teasing you a little and seem to have provided a little light relief for everyone.

    What I was basically trying to say is that to improve as a cyclist you need to put lots of miles in. As you do that you will learn what feels right for you. I personally lower my cadence gradually according to the length and gradient of the hill. I start at about 80rpm by contrast with 90 rpm on the flat and drop to as little as 50 - 60 rpm by the end of the hill. I go up a gear and stand up just before the brow of the hill but when I do so depends on how strong I am feeling. If I realise I have stood up too early I just sit down again and drop a gear.

    I think hovering must be an X-biking technique and something that doesn't offer any advantages on a real bike.
     
  10. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran

    Location:
    e4
    cadence and lower gear is good

    and then get stuck

    every week I get a little bit better at the whore that is the hill from Seven Sisters to Manor Park
     
  11. John Ponting

    John Ponting Über Member

    Location:
    Herts
  12. OP
    OP
    cyclebum

    cyclebum Senior Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Thanks for this. I certainly am trying to get as many miles as poss in, how do you think I got my cyclebum!;) must say I was amazed how soon then pain disappeared and I am sure that was just due to frequent stubborn perserverence. I can now cope quite comfortably with about 30 miles, though my hips start to ache a bit by then- my fault for taking up such a daft thing as a mid life crisis! I started to do all this in March when I signed up for a charity bike ride in India next year, over 240miles over 5 days.
     
  13. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest


    it's PEDAL!
    For god's sake!
    Stop trying to look twee, you know very well what the correct spelling is - it's not an optional modification thing!
     
  14. asterix

    asterix Comrade Member

    Location:
    Limoges or York
    ..then why isn't it

    SADAL rather than saddle?

    (not that I don't find 'peddle' irritating, except maybe if you are trying to sell me something)
     
  15. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest

    I don't find it irritating if people make a genuine spelling mistake, but with 'peddle' they know how it should be but they deliberately get it wrong to appear all fuzzy and twee. That annoys me.