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Kovu

Kovu

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Fnaar said:
I think he can meddle with events if it suits the plot, but otherwise it's a bit of a no-no. :smile:

Well that just changes my whole opinion of him!!! xx(:biggrin:
 

marinyork

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How would you know the difference if someone was picked up or not unless they declared it? Physics is based on observers in their frames of reference e.g. if you were living in a world where time ran at a tenth of the speed you wouldn't notice. In a similar sort of way if someone came along and picked someone up and changed some event how would you notice the difference?
 
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Kovu

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Arch said:
a) He's not the Lord of Time. He's a Time Lord. He doesn't control time, he can merely travel through it.

:biggrin: He can stop something happening if he's there. He can't cherry pick and go back to stop specific things. If he hadn't been on that Titanic, it'd have hit Earth. Anyway, the Tardis navigation system is pretty ropey by now, and he rarely ends up exactly where and when he wants to be.

1.) Okay granted the first point, but what would you classify as "controlling time"?

2.) Yeah but I'm sure in recent times, DT turned and asked Tate where she wanted to go, and then listed loads of things. And when he was with Tate in the libary, he meant to go to the libary, so he can go where he needs.
 
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marinyork said:
How would you know the difference if someone was picked up or not unless they declared it? Physics is based on observers in their frames of reference e.g. if you were living in a world where time ran at a tenth of the speed you wouldn't notice. In a similar sort of way if someone came along and picked someone up and changed some event how would you notice the difference?

But isn't there the whole idea that if a twin travelled at nearly the speed of light then he would be younger then the other twin that hadn't been travelling at the speed of light? Or is that the whole idea your putting forward bout time running a tenth of the speed? :biggrin:

I still think though that surley if we invented time travel in the future, we could come back and tell the present.
 

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Kovu said:
1.) Okay granted the first point, but what would you classify as "controlling time"?

2.) Yeah but I'm sure in recent times, DT turned and asked Tate where she wanted to go, and then listed loads of things. And when he was with Tate in the libary, he meant to go to the libary, so he can go where he needs.

1) well, I think of it as like riding along a road. I can follow it, I can turn off, maybe turn back, but I can't alter where the road goes.

2) I think it works when it suits the plot, unlike the completely bust Chameleon circuit. And it is all just a story you know. Even I recognise that that....
 

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Arch said:
1) well, I think of it as like riding along a road. I can follow it, I can turn off, maybe turn back, but I can't alter where the road goes.

2) I think it works when it suits the plot, unlike the completely bust Chameleon circuit. And it is all just a story you know. Even I recognise that....
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*dissappears in puff of self-referential logic*
 
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Arch said:
1) well, I think of it as like riding along a road. I can follow it, I can turn off, maybe turn back, but I can't alter where the road goes.

2) I think it works when it suits the plot, unlike the completely bust Chameleon circuit. And it is all just a story you know. Even I recognise that that....

What?! Your telling me it isn't real! Your taking away my whole dream here Arch!!! xx( :biggrin: No I was just letting my mind wander when I was trying to focus on a politics exam, not sure why I moved on to time travel though!
 
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Arch said:
1) well, I think of it as like riding along a road. I can follow it, I can turn off, maybe turn back, but I can't alter where the road goes.

2) I think it works when it suits the plot, unlike the completely bust Chameleon circuit. And it is all just a story you know. Even I recognise that that....

What?! Your telling me it isn't real! Your taking away my whole dream here Arch!!! xx( :biggrin: No I was just letting my mind wander when I was trying to focus on a politics exam, not sure why I moved on to time travel though!

Even though Doc Who isn't real, I do love the fact there is explantions to why things happen!
 

Fnaar

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but there was an episode where there were photos of him at real events, like the launch of the titanic, on the grassy knoll, etc. So he MUST be real. :biggrin:
 
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Kovu

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Fnaar said:
but there was an episode where there were photos of him at real events, like the launch of the titanic, on the grassy knoll, etc. So he MUST be real. xx(

Maybe he will be real, but he has come back and commisioned a show about his life which has cleverly been shot by the BBC to hoodwink us. Indeed in 300 years time, Doctor Who will come to earth because he'll be the last time lord. :biggrin: Figured it out!
 

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Kovu said:
I still think though that surley if we invented time travel in the future, we could come back and tell the present.

I thought that with regard to continuum relativity, you could not travel further back in time than when the time-travel machine (in which you are travelling) was invented.

This means that "we" could not travel to the present. :smile:
 
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Speicher said:
I thought that with regard to continuum relativity, you could not travel further back in time than when the time-travel machine (in which you are travelling) was invented.

This means that "we" could not travel to the present. :smile:

Ahhhhh I see, so that answers my question in an actual sense and I get that :evil:

But Doctor Who goes everywhere? Did he have the tardis when the universe first began or no?
 

marinyork

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The timelords are supposed to have gone back a very long, long, time. Although time travel was much later when Omega and then Rassilon discovered it.
 

marinyork

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Speicher said:
I thought that with regard to continuum relativity, you could not travel further back in time than when the time-travel machine (in which you are travelling) was invented.

This means that "we" could not travel to the present. :smile:

Star Trek :evil:

Kovu said:
But isn't there the whole idea that if a twin travelled at nearly the speed of light then he would be younger then the other twin that hadn't been travelling at the speed of light? Or is that the whole idea your putting forward bout time running a tenth of the speed? :smile:

I still think though that surley if we invented time travel in the future, we could come back and tell the present.

Yes, the twins will be a different age. They will experience time as passing at the same speed so won't notice it. They'll only be aware of it when they meet up.

What would be the point of a time machine if you told someone about it :smile: (apart from your assistant in the Tardis).
 

montage

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When Dr Who reincarnates why doesn't he come back looking like terminator? That way he could mash half the aliens with his fists.
 
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