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Chromatic

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Gloucestershire
Methinks you missed the point......

Very likely.
 
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Thats has been management in companies with IT for many years

Many a time some moron - sorry manager (I get confused between the two) - went to a trade show and got sold some wonderful new system

and then innsisted that we somehow made it work with the current systems

I was normally the one that got landed on making them work together

and if it didn;t work as well as the salesman said it would then it was my fault

AI is just the newest bright shiny thing

in teaching is was always Apples Mac and iPADS - no idea what they could do with them but they spent thousands on them
and told teh parents there was no money left to have a breakfast club


I have seen the concept many times!!
 

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Windle

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Location
Burnthouses
Thats has been management in companies with IT for many years

Many a time some moron - sorry manager (I get confused between the two) - went to a trade show and got sold some wonderful new system

and then innsisted that we somehow made it work with the current systems

I was normally the one that got landed on making them work together

and if it didn;t work as well as the salesman said it would then it was my fault

AI is just the newest bright shiny thing

in teaching is was always Apples Mac and iPADS - no idea what they could do with them but they spent thousands on them
and told teh parents there was no money left to have a breakfast club


I have seen the concept many times!!

I've always thought that salesmen selling new tech to clueless management causes no end of trouble. The people that actually end up having to use it could have saved the company money by telling them it's not really any good. But it's always too late by the time we see it. The simple ways are often the best.
The 'AI will take our jobs' thing that folk parrot annoys me as well, when the reality is that it's a combination of AI tech salesmen and greedy bosses who think they can save a few wages that will 'take your job', not AI all by itself :angry:.
 
I've always thought that salesmen selling new tech to clueless management causes no end of trouble. The people that actually end up having to use it could have saved the company money by telling them it's not really any good. But it's always too late by the time we see it. The simple ways are often the best.
The 'AI will take our jobs' thing that folk parrot annoys me as well, when the reality is that it's a combination of AI tech salesmen and greedy bosses who think they can save a few wages that will 'take your job', not AI all by itself :angry:.

Worst thing I have come across of techy sounding guff from sales people wasting money in school

was "its in the cloud"

OK - cloud based stuff has big advantages
butonly when it has those advantages - which you need to look at
far far far too much software was being sold to school as "in the cloud" when in reality you could spend £4.50 per computer and get something better
rather than spending £4500 for a site licence
and then have the amazing discount rate of only £20 per computer for "joining fee"
and the annual license fee of only £10 per connection

and the added advantage of the first year having an 80% discount on


etc etc etc

and at the end of the day I was being the grumpy old fart "that didn;t understand IT" for asking what learning advantage this gives to the kids and the school


Only the Gods know how much I saved my last school in getting simple cheap software that just worked because the Head always insisted on me looking at things and talking to sales people and believed me rather than them - and some other teachers!!!


bet the "academy" that has taken over has spent loads of money replacing stuff that worked perfectly well!!!

*sorry - end rant - but it did annoy me (other terms are available)
 

Windle

Über Member
Location
Burnthouses
Worst thing I have come across of techy sounding guff from sales people wasting money in school

was "its in the cloud"

OK - cloud based stuff has big advantages
butonly when it has those advantages - which you need to look at
far far far too much software was being sold to school as "in the cloud" when in reality you could spend £4.50 per computer and get something better
rather than spending £4500 for a site licence
and then have the amazing discount rate of only £20 per computer for "joining fee"
and the annual license fee of only £10 per connection

and the added advantage of the first year having an 80% discount on


etc etc etc

and at the end of the day I was being the grumpy old fart "that didn;t understand IT" for asking what learning advantage this gives to the kids and the school


Only the Gods know how much I saved my last school in getting simple cheap software that just worked because the Head always insisted on me looking at things and talking to sales people and believed me rather than them - and some other teachers!!!


bet the "academy" that has taken over has spent loads of money replacing stuff that worked perfectly well!!!

*sorry - end rant - but it did annoy me (other terms are available)

'The grumpy old fart that didn't understand IT' is always their answer :laugh:.
Yes, I am a grumpy old (middle aged) fart, but I do understand it, and it's sh*t. The only bit I don't understand is why 'they' think it's better.
 
'The grumpy old fart that didn't understand IT' is always their answer :laugh:.
Yes, I am a grumpy old (middle aged) fart, but I do understand it, and it's sh*t. The only bit I don't understand is why 'they' think it's better.

Thing is that I knew IT far better than the salepeople
I had, after all, worked in it at a very techy level for 20 years before becoming "only a teacher"

which is why I could see through their sales pitch

and also why it was so annoying!!!!!
 
'The grumpy old fart that didn't understand IT' is always their answer :laugh:.
Yes, I am a grumpy old (middle aged) fart, but I do understand it, and it's sh*t. The only bit I don't understand is why 'they' think it's better.

IT was invented by old farts. (Not necessarily grumpy, some of the grumpiest grumps I know are well under 40)
 
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