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Monkreadusuk

Über Member
If it's safe to park for 15 minutes then it's safe to park full-stop and the yellow lines should be removed.

From my experience working in this area of enforcement this is a common thing people seem to forget. They seem to think that the lines are there just for fun and have no real purpose.

Most of the time this is not the case.
 
We are having issues with parking in the town centre now. Most streets into market place are double yellow or short stay.
I have no problem with the restriction, but i do have a problem with all the illegally parked cars.
This only started after the council removed 80% of the parking in the market place. Twonks

This made me laugh

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Denaris
29th July 2013 - 11:52
In reality there should be no lines anywhere on any roads, you should be able to park wherever you like for however long - after all we pay toad tax!
 
Our local high street is suffering being so close to Westfield Starford. Pakring may make some revenue but this is alsomst certainly dwarfed by the loss of rates from the vacant shops which are increasing.

Make dangerouse areas strictly no parking and other areas free parking for a short period. Our area has a single no parking hour during the day to stop commuters parking which works well.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
I have an idea.

Stay with me on this - it's a bit 'out there'.

Wacky, you might say.

But there's no harm in suggesting something, is there?

This could change the world.

Here's my idea...






... people could walk to their local high street and leave their car at home.
Or they could put panniers and baskets on their bikes, and do lots of smaller shopping outings. More people, less traffic.
 
Or they could put panniers and baskets on their bikes, and do lots of smaller shopping outings. More people, less traffic.
Yeah, they could but they don't.

Out of town centres are now cleaning up as they offer free and easy parking. I'd love to see the day everyone walks/cycles but until that happens (or doesn't) making high streets parking nightmares will only kill the independant shops maing it worse for everyone except for a few shareholders at Tescos.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
And it'll be those who do their 'big' shop at asda or tesco or morrisons who'll be the first to complain the town centre ain't what it used to be... of course it's not, you stopped using it you thick numpties!!!
 

StuartG

slower but no further
Location
SE London
Our High Street (Sydenham) has a wide road. At the behest of the traders it is stuffed with free parking both sides (and a large free car park behind). The barrier of two lines of parked cars and two lines of moving traffic make crossing the road inconvenient and unpleasant. Result - the shops (with a few honourable exceptions) are awful. The street is a disaster. Bad enough to qualify for a Portas grant which recommends, wait for it, more parking!

10 minutes up the road by bus is Lordship Lane, East Dulwich. A narrow road with very little on-street parking and no public car park. Its a roaring success retail wise. Why - you can see across the road, you can dash across the road. People shop on foot. And then adjourn to a coffee bar. Forest Hill on the South Circular with little parking is also prospering in the same way.

This belief by local traders in Sydenham is that the only way they can compete with Sainsbury's et al is by offering more car parking is surely set to fail. Yes you have to drive to the hypermarket but most people in inner London can walk or ride to their local high street. And once they are there they are not hunting for a spot or keeping an eye on their watch - they are - SHOPPING!

I watched one part of our high street. Nearly every car that came and parked had someone jump out, dash to the ATM, and then drove away. Much good that does the local retailers. The rest of the parking places are filled by people who live in the flats over the shops. Not much better. So, I dare to suggest, the ease of on street parking is a major danger to the success of the town.
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK
From my experience working in this area of enforcement this is a common thing people seem to forget. They seem to think that the lines are there just for fun and have no real purpose.

Most of the time this is not the case.

Does that mean some of the time the lines serve no useful purpose?
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Quite a few councils do this - where parking is safe, it seems to me a perfectly sensible way to ration the space, allowing the maximum number of people to benefit.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
yebbut, it might well happen as I expect Pickles is aware that disabled drivers can already park on double-yellows, more or less at will, for 3 hours at a stretch. Our town centre is full of 'illegally' parked wankpanzers with blue badges parked right outside Waitrose. The car par is nearer to the entrance but then they'd have to pay.
 

BrumJim

Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
I saw a woman this week park on double yellows on a high street .... just at the point it narrows and has zigzags for a zebra crossing. And the what was the urgent need of this woman? She had a singular bag of shoes to deliver to a charity shop - there are parking bays only 40 m before that. And a large public car park behind the shop! I think a lot of people have lost that ability to walk! (or use their brain!)


Certainly in Birmingham there seems to be a game/competition as to who can park the nearest to their destination. Whilst visiting my wife in hospital (birth of son - happy event, not negative one) I used to stand at the window watching the waiting, scouting, posturing and aggressive attitudes from people desperate to park in the car park near the front door. Laughable. Utterly. None of these needed to be near the door, but people would rather do this than park in the nearby multi-storey, which had the advantage of paying when you left, rather than when you arrived. Where there were plenty of spaces.
Its like modern society has emaciated people to the point where tribal aggressions are left to be played out in parking spaces. These have become the new fertile pastures. Me? I bash a few hills and chase down anything on two wheels that is in eye-sight.
 
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