Anyone know this idiot motorcyclist?

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KneesUp

Guru
Things we know:

The video showing a Ducati motorcycle colliding with a cyclist near Buckingham Palace in London was origianlly on a youtube channel called DucatiDragons.

A link to this was posted by a user of hyperstrada.com called phantomfighter on March 4th 2014. http://hyperstrada.com/ducati-hyperstrada/663-ducati-dragons-s-youtube-channel.html#post7165

On March 7th, user NiceweatherManni on hyperstada.com posted

"Better take thy video with the cyclist offline dude....I don't think that the video is good for you ;-) "http://hyperstrada.com/ducati-hyperstrada/663-ducati-dragons-s-youtube-channel-2.html#post7221

phantomfighter replied on March 7th 2014

"All done. I don't know what I was thinking putting that up to be honest. I guess I was hungry for views. Silly me deleted now. "http://hyperstrada.com/ducati-hyperstrada/663-ducati-dragons-s-youtube-channel-2.html#post7223

On the same day (March 17th) phantomfighter posted the follwing on hyperstada.com on a thread titled "What'd you do to your hyperstada today?"

" I adjusted my right handle bar mirror with the left elbow of a cyclist. Lol "http://hyperstrada.com/ducati-hyperstrada/584-what-d-you-do-your-hyperstrada-today-10.html#post7215


phantomfighter has also posted the following:

March 10 2014 "Im going to keep the video private and check it with somebody before I ever use it as evidence. Also, I am not going to go into detail on an open forum of what happened as that would be an admission as well. " http://hyperstrada.com/ducati-hyperstrada/663-ducati-dragons-s-youtube-channel-2.html#post7264

The original video has been removed, but reposted several times. It has been removed with a copyright infrigement notice in the name of Alex Mitchell http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/anyone-know-this-idiot-motorcyclist.156727/post-3094698

A user called phantomfighter on the forum ducatiforum.co.uk posted the following on April 2, 2013

"I'm going through a compensation scam at the moment. I cyclist claimed I hit them from the rear on the road when they fell on their own in front if me.

As I never collided with this person I left the "scene" I got a letter from the police accusing me of dangerous driving and leaving the scene of an accident.

After a few months of stress sorting this out the police went no further as there was no evidence. I thought that it was all over until my insurance company received a letter 7 months later claiming I had collided with this cyclist.

I'm waiting to hear the outcome. This was some young Arab daffodil in marylebone high street, the guy was on the phone at the time on his push bike.

So I know how this guy must be feeling." http://ducatiforum.co.uk/forum/threads/compensation-culture.9570/page-2#post-141854

This may or not be the same Phantomfighter as the Phantomfighter on hyperstrada.com, whom we can assume to be the Alex Mitchell who is requesting that the video is removed for copyright reasons, but it seems to be a similar case to the one on the video, at least as reported by the cyclist - that is that the cyclist claims that a rider of a Ducati knocked him off his bicycle from behind whilst he was cycling in London and on the phone.

Is there any other evidence I've missed?
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
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benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
[QUOTE 3095218, member: 9609"]Is she not impartial, and what should she have done ?

From what I gather she does not see the collision, has obviously not seen the video, and clearly does not know the motorcyclist may have previous incidents with rear ending cyclists, and will also be unaware of the post he made announcing that he had altered his bike to facilitate hitting cyclists whilst undertaking.

I guess she sees the incident as six of one and half dozen of the other, tells them both to behave themselves, watches them shake hands and thinks to herself they've both probably learned, lets move on - good policing? I don't really know but I don't see it as bad policing.[/QUOTE]

How can someone crashing into someone else from behind be six of one and half dozen of the other?
She doesn't listen to the cyclist's point of view at all. She sides completely with the motorcyclist, and fixates on the fact the cyclist was on the phone despite that not being illegal, and it being completely irrelevant to the collision.

So not completely impartial, no.
 

KneesUp

Guru
[QUOTE 3095218, member: 9609"]Is she not impartial, and what should she have done ?

From what I gather she does not see the collision, has obviously not seen the video, and clearly does not know the motorcyclist may have previous incidents with rear ending cyclists, and will also be unaware of the post he made announcing that he had altered his bike to facilitate hitting cyclists whilst undertaking.

I guess she sees the incident as six of one and half dozen of the other, tells them both to behave themselves, watches them shake hands and thinks to herself they've both probably learned, lets move on - good policing? I don't really know but I don't see it as bad policing.[/QUOTE]

Can you link to this so I can add it to my 'evidence' post please?
 

Igeotre

New Member
On the subject of the copyright claims he's making, I know youtube are shoddy and just pull everything, but surely a bit of editing and commentary could give a bit of a better chance at it being left alone. Or am I just naive?
 

stowie

Legendary Member
[QUOTE 3095218, member: 9609"]Is she not impartial, and what should she have done ?

From what I gather she does not see the collision, has obviously not seen the video, and clearly does not know the motorcyclist may have previous incidents with rear ending cyclists, and will also be unaware of the post he made announcing that he had altered his bike to facilitate hitting cyclists whilst undertaking.

I guess she sees the incident as six of one and half dozen of the other, tells them both to behave themselves, watches them shake hands and thinks to herself they've both probably learned, lets move on - good policing? I don't really know but I don't see it as bad policing.[/QUOTE]

It is tricky, and if she didn't see the incident then I wouldn't expect her to do much than mediate. However she didn't let the cyclist speak, seemed to assign immediately blame because of his mobile use, even though using a mobile when cycling isn't an offence, and since she didn't see the incident, she would have had no idea if his use of the mobile contributed or not (it didn't in the end, clearly seen by the video). The cyclist was clearly saying that he was hit from behind by an undertaking motorcyclist and yet this didn't seem to register at all.

I am deeply cynical of the MET's attitude to cyclists having heard some stories first hand of the way they have treated cyclists involved in accidents. I would say that if this had been two cars and one had hit the other from behind then the conversation may have been different. She didn't challenge the motorcyclist when he was saying about being hit from the side? How could that happen?!
 
Things we know:

This may or not be the same Phantomfighter as the Phantomfighter on hyperstrada.com, whom we can assume to be the Alex Mitchell who is requesting that the video is removed for copyright reasons, but it seems to be a similar case to the one on the video, at least as reported by the cyclist - that is that the cyclist claims that a rider of a Ducati knocked him off his bicycle from behind whilst he was cycling in London and on the phone.

Is there any other evidence I've missed?

Yes. Here http://ducatiforum.co.uk/forum/threads/picked-up-my-2013-hyper-sp.12339/ Note the photobucket account. This is key to all of this. http://s427.photobucket.com/user/ph...C4-1545-00000248938FFEBB_zps2fbd1486.mp4.html

The phantomgixer photobucket account was used on the original thread he ties his YouTube account to the http://hyperstrada.com/ducati-hyperstrada/663-ducati-dragons-s-youtube-channel.html forum. From there, a google search for the photobucket account ties all his other accounts to that one, including the one you post, ebay account, job lot.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/alexbayswater

he uses the same photbucket account for the ebay listings. his name on ebay is alexbayswater. search for phantomgixer last fm on google, you get his last.fm account. Take the photo he uses on there and use it as a google image search. brings up stuff like this http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/tawana-thai-restaurant-london all reviews in bayswater. Everywhere he has used that photobucket account can be verified to be him. All accounts can be connected with each other in one way or another. There is no doubt about who this is in the other forums.
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
[QUOTE 3095218, member: 9609"]will also be unaware of the post he made announcing that he had altered his bike to facilitate hitting cyclists whilst undertaking.
[/QUOTE]
I don't think that's what he said, I think he was saying he adjusted his mirror when he hit a cyclist, not he adjusted his mirror to hit a cyclist. As in he hit a cyclist hard enough with his mirror to alter it's position.
He's still a git mind :thumbsup:
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
What TMN said.
 

Peter Armstrong

Über Member
Its hard without sound (no speakers at work) and the initial impact could be written off as completely careles but from the feed back I take he incriminates in sound?

No, it was defiantly intentional

He says this, "I adjusted my right handle bar mirror with the left elbow of a cyclist. Lol"

And watch the video, he looks directly at the impact area like he is aiming to clip the cyclist with his mirror.
 

KneesUp

Guru
No, it was defiantly intentional

He says this, "I adjusted my right handle bar mirror with the left elbow of a cyclist. Lol"

And watch the video, he looks directly at the impact area like he is aiming to clip the cyclist with his mirror.

Certainly he is heading for a very narrow gap, one side of which is a cyclist whom Alex knows is on the phone and - presumably - deems this to be detrimental to the cyclists ability to cycle properly - hence his first question of 'Why were you on the phone'

So, we have someone on a Ducati motorbike heading for a small gap alongside a cyclist whom the Ducati rider thinks isn't fully aware or able to control his bicycle. And the Ducati rider goes for that small gap without slowing, and in fact is heard to rev the engine just prior to the impact.

So intentional or not (and I am sure that there are those - perhaps people who work as a Graphic Designer and so on) who would argue that it wasn't intentional - it was certainly avoidable, but it doesn't seem like anything at all was done to avoid it
 

.stu

Über Member
Location
Worcester
Is there any other evidence I've missed?

Yes there was something on another twitter account @Alexiobay he posted back in November 2013, where he mentions a cyclist falling off his bike in front off him and says it was "unlucky" (my quotes). He also mentions a desire to go round to a cyclists house and kill him. The twitter account was under his name (it still is if you google it), but he has changed the name and picture and deleted all the incriminating tweets

I wonder, if the police do decide to follow up on the video, could he also be charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice?

EDIT: Some of the content is preserved here on page 11 in Ben Stones's post.
 
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KneesUp

Guru
Yes there was something on another twitter account @Alexiobay he posted back in November 2013, where he mentions a cyclist falling off his bike in front off him and says it was "unlucky" (my quotes). He also mentions a desire to go round to a cyclists house and kill him. The twitter account was under his name (it still is if you google it), but he has changed the name and picture and deleted all the incriminating tweets

I wonder, if the police do decide to follow up on the video, could he also be charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice?
Of course. I'd forgotten about these tweets:

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