MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
- Location
- Lancaster... the little city.
hope he got double time... it's a bank holiday.
Anyone know this idiot motorcyclist?
- Thread starter glenn forger
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Lanzecki
Über Member
- Location
- A Boreen, Ireland
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
I've seen it in other parts of England before, it's a general overtaking space that either side can use.
400bhp
Guru
I think he typed the last line, for sure.
ComedyPilot
Secret Lemonade Drinker
- Location
- The Kingdom of Yorkshire
Just been contacted by the owner of the bus company, and have emailed her the screen grab. And also advised her of the road tax situation, the legality of cyclists on the phone and included a link to the vid so she can see what spawned the driver's comments.A mate posted a link to this on faceberk. Some bloke commented about ramming the non-road-tax-paying cyclist off the road.....with his bus.
Stupid thing to do if your profile names the bus company you work for.
All the more stupid if the bus company has a faceberk profile.
Cntrl/scrn/print/paste..........
Strange, he seemed so certain of his opinion then, but has now deleted his comments.......I wonder why?
Cycling Dan
Cycle Crazy
Keep us informed as I am rather interested.
downfader
extimus uero philosophus
- Location
- 'ampsheeeer
AndyRM
XOXO
- Location
- North Shields
Try El Duderino if you're not into that whole brevity thing.
slowmotion
Quite dreadful
- Location
- lost somewhere
[QUOTE 3102142, member: 9609"]I wonder how much damage to cycling incidents like this bring; I love my cycling but always have that background fear that someone who is not concentrating will hit me from behind, now we see an incident where someone appears to deliberately and knowingly go very close and (being generous) accidentally clips the cyclist. this could have easily ended in a fatality! The fact that someone would do such a thing frightens me so much I start to wonder if it is worthwhile ever going out on a busy road. Twice today whilst out cycling on very quiet roads I stopped when I heard a vehicle coming from behind which is something I don't normally do - so if something like this makes me think twice, could it possibly cause someone else to give up cycling or change someone's mind who was about to start.[/QUOTE]
I think that it is quite possible that a non-cyclist might view the Youtube clip with horrror and have doubts about getting on a bicycle. What I rather hope is that, having been viewed by nearly a third of a million people, the likes of Alex Philip Harvey Mitchell of London W2 and his fellow aggressives might be a trifle more realistic about the consequences of their arrogance. Whether that prospect would deter them or not, I do not know.
I think that it is quite possible that a non-cyclist might view the Youtube clip with horrror and have doubts about getting on a bicycle. What I rather hope is that, having been viewed by nearly a third of a million people, the likes of Alex Philip Harvey Mitchell of London W2 and his fellow aggressives might be a trifle more realistic about the consequences of their arrogance. Whether that prospect would deter them or not, I do not know.
amazing... i suggest the following:
- someone should show the policegirl this thread, with a summary of what happened as posted by Mr Knees up in #399 and the transcript typed with due diligence by Mr Glenn in # 582, just so she realizes how she (as police) was easily manipulated by the biker and how moronic(ly) she handled the whole situation. she should brush up on her training and remember not to let her own biases obfuscate her judgement in the conduct of an on-scene investigation
- the video footage of the incident should also be sent to police force training academies/institutes around the civilized world as a good example and case study for cadets/trainees on How NOT To Do It.
visiting other forums and sites where the incident is being discussed, i'm equally amazed that a number of people still insist that the phone issue contributed to the "accident" and/or the biker was simply stupid in the sense that he miscalculated by trying to squeeze his bike in a non-existent gap between a car and the cyclist. people should realize that this is sort of a hate offence by a motorist (sadly, a ducati biker) against cyclists in general, IF the biker's previous "incidents" and comments on the web against cyclists are taken into account. there is a pattern of behaviour leading to it. most telling is his Post, "I adjusted my right handlebar mirror with the left elbow of a cyclist. Lol". he succeeded in hurting a cyclist, thought it was funny, then had the arrogance to brag about it online to his like-minded buddies (supported by the video). the mishap was no "accident"... considering other factors, THERE IS MALICIOUS INTENT, phone or no phone, cycle lane or otherwise. the biker clearly had a mission (as part of his daily commute) to scare/hurt cyclists who are on their phones or running stoplights then blame them if they got hurt in the process. the victim here was just unfortunate that he became a "target of opportunity" for the predator ducati biker but it can happen to any cyclist, be it us or somebody close to us (spouse, children, friend, etc). that is not cool
- someone should show the policegirl this thread, with a summary of what happened as posted by Mr Knees up in #399 and the transcript typed with due diligence by Mr Glenn in # 582, just so she realizes how she (as police) was easily manipulated by the biker and how moronic(ly) she handled the whole situation. she should brush up on her training and remember not to let her own biases obfuscate her judgement in the conduct of an on-scene investigation
- the video footage of the incident should also be sent to police force training academies/institutes around the civilized world as a good example and case study for cadets/trainees on How NOT To Do It.
visiting other forums and sites where the incident is being discussed, i'm equally amazed that a number of people still insist that the phone issue contributed to the "accident" and/or the biker was simply stupid in the sense that he miscalculated by trying to squeeze his bike in a non-existent gap between a car and the cyclist. people should realize that this is sort of a hate offence by a motorist (sadly, a ducati biker) against cyclists in general, IF the biker's previous "incidents" and comments on the web against cyclists are taken into account. there is a pattern of behaviour leading to it. most telling is his Post, "I adjusted my right handlebar mirror with the left elbow of a cyclist. Lol". he succeeded in hurting a cyclist, thought it was funny, then had the arrogance to brag about it online to his like-minded buddies (supported by the video). the mishap was no "accident"... considering other factors, THERE IS MALICIOUS INTENT, phone or no phone, cycle lane or otherwise. the biker clearly had a mission (as part of his daily commute) to scare/hurt cyclists who are on their phones or running stoplights then blame them if they got hurt in the process. the victim here was just unfortunate that he became a "target of opportunity" for the predator ducati biker but it can happen to any cyclist, be it us or somebody close to us (spouse, children, friend, etc). that is not cool
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[QUOTE 3102142, member: 9609"]I wonder how much damage to cycling incidents like this bring; I love my cycling but always have that background fear that someone who is not concentrating will hit me from behind, now we see an incident where someone appears to deliberately and knowingly go very close and (being generous) accidentally clips the cyclist. this could have easily ended in a fatality! The fact that someone would do such a thing frightens me so much I start to wonder if it is worthwhile ever going out on a busy road. Twice today whilst out cycling on very quiet roads I stopped when I heard a vehicle coming from behind which is something I don't normally do - so if something like this makes me think twice, could it possibly cause someone else to give up cycling or change someone's mind who was about to start.[/QUOTE]
If I thought like that then I wouldn't leave the house ever. It's the old classic of you could be run over by a bus just crossing the road etc. BUT I can see your point about clips like these putting other cyclists off. It's one of the reasons I really don't like all these web cammers posting all their clips for the world to see. It really does give a skewed view of cycling, especially town and city cycling. There are ten's of thousands of cycling miles done every day without incident and just a few altercations. It's the altercations that get all the views.
If I thought like that then I wouldn't leave the house ever. It's the old classic of you could be run over by a bus just crossing the road etc. BUT I can see your point about clips like these putting other cyclists off. It's one of the reasons I really don't like all these web cammers posting all their clips for the world to see. It really does give a skewed view of cycling, especially town and city cycling. There are ten's of thousands of cycling miles done every day without incident and just a few altercations. It's the altercations that get all the views.
vickster
Squire
This was the point I made to my boss after I unfortunately got knocked off 3 weeks into a new job. I could have easily have been knocked over walking or hurt in a car accident which were also not my fault. I agree on the camera point, may serve to increase antagonism between cyclists and other road users
