Anyone know this make of bike or even owned one?

[Dave7]

I was in Liverpool today and there was a guy with an old road bike. The make was Bottochia and, I believe, is Italian. He told me it was 30+ years old.
@gavroche , I think he said he was from Penmaenmawr.
2 photos.

 

[biggs682]

I would geuss on it being a Bottochia

 

[DCLane]

Try 'Bottechia' and yes, they're Italian: https://www.bottecchiauk.com/

Nice bikes.

 

[Dave7]

I would geuss on it being a Bottochia

Yes, MrsD said I had misread it on the photo. I will edit the text. Thanks.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

Quality frames those, made from Columbus tubesets. The Italian equivalent of a Reynolds framed bike.

 

[gavroche]

I was in Liverpool today and there was a guy with an old road bike. The make was Bottochia and, I believe, is Italian. He told me it was 30+ years old.
@gavroche , I think he said he was from Penmaenmawr.
2 photos.
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I often ride that way so I might see him one day?

 

[Globalti]

What does "quality frame" mean in the context of skinny steel tubes? Noodly and wobbly? My brother and I once hired an old-school skinny steel tandem and it was a horribly upsetting experience because it felt like sitting astride a farm gate, so badly did it wobble.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

What does "quality frame" mean in the context of skinny steel tubes?

It means a nicely finished frame of pleasing appearance built using a decent butted steel tubeset. Frame stiffness is a matter of rider preference, rider size, and frame size.

 

[Ian H]

It is significantly more difficult to build a stiff tandem frame. Reynolds made an oversize tubing set, which had to be fillet-brazed as there were no lugs. But only the marathon and double-marathon designs really passed muster, and even then only if they were well-built.

 

[Pale Rider]

My local bike shop has an oldish Cannondale tandem on their small hire fleet.

It has large diameter tubes.

Perhaps it's aluminium.

No idea how it rides.

A few months ago they had an obscure Chinese brand carbon tandem in for service.

I'd never seen one of those before.

The owner of the shop offered me a go as a stoker on the road test, but I didn't fancy it.

 

[Gravity Aided]

We have an aluminum Santana in our bike co-op at the moment. A thing of beauty, for a tandem. Little engineering nuances and fine styling throughout.