Anyone Who Watched the Giro Yesterday Still Think Helmets Don't Do Their Job!?!

[screenman]

Finally, an explanation for the people I see cycling along carrying helmets. Some are also protecting their right hand grip, which seems sensible, I've damaged the end of the grips in quite a large percentage of my offs.

Blimey, how many off's have you had?

 

[ianrauk]

So they can get bits of plastic embedded in their chins?

Yup.

 

[Tin Pot]

If only it were safety rated:

 

[w00hoo_kent]

Blimey, how many off's have you had?

Not that many, bearing in mind 3 is a large percentage of 4.

So they can get bits of plastic embedded in their chins?

Wow these anti helmet brigade find fault in everything, next they'll worry about them catching fire from the friction ;-)

Seriously, the chin guard is designed to shear at the bolts so in a big face first off it'll flex and then snap taking the initial force, in a slide down the road type off it's more likely to grind. Of course it may snag and kill me, if so I'll be sure to mention it.

 

[doog]

Just don't keep on at me if I don't join you

we wont

 

[ufkacbln]

I believe that his glasses were what damaged his face.

Headway the Charity promotes full face helmets, the literature they misquote to get their figures is from the British Dental Association who want helmets to have facial protection

 

[ufkacbln]

try wearing on your elbow next time.

IIRC there was a campaign against this with motorcyclists


The number of fractured humerus incidents caused by the "leverage" of the helmet in even slow crashes was cause for concern

 

[w00hoo_kent]

FFS, how many more times. Not anti-helmet. You want to wear a silly useless bit of plastic, feel free. Just don't keep on at me if I don't join you. And don't make spurious claims about effectiveness.

So glad I bothered to put the smiley on, but I guess some people are just over sensitive. I'll be sure and make it bigger next time, providing I can still type after my quick release buckle takes my finger off (I hear that's common).

 

[Licramite]

IIRC there was a campaign against this with motorcyclists


The number of fractured humerus incidents caused by the "leverage" of the helmet in even slow crashes was cause for concern

The Humerus? - what he was wearing it on his elbow or his shoulder?

 

[Profpointy]

The Humerus? - what he was wearing it on his elbow or his shoulder?

I presume the post was referring to motorcyclists carrying a spare helmet on their arm eg when intending to pick up a passenger

 

[Shut Up Legs]

They don't rate helmets for speed

Yes, "they" do rate them for speed, and this information is easy enough to find. Here's a few samples:

• 20km/h, according to the CPSC (USA Consumer Product Safety Commission): see http://www.helmets.org/cpscstd.htm, and http://www.bhsi.org/testing.htm
• In Australia: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/04/australian-helmet-standards-what-you-need-to-know/ - this one's unclear on the speed, but mentions that a helmet with a "headform" inside it is dropped from a maximum height of about 1.8m, so the speed can't be that high.
• This page, also Australian, highlights the dishonesty in some helmet testing (search for "A strange study" in the page): http://crag.asn.au/409. It also mentions that the safety testing was done for 5 to 11km/h speeds.
• In this Australian study, testing was done for speeds up to 25km/h: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15389588.2012.727217

Finally, this Australian article sums up why we shouldn't be compelled to wear bicycle helmets and should be allowed to choose for ourselves:
https://ipa.org.au/publications/2019/australia's-helmet-law-disaster

 

[bpsmith]

Yes, "they" do rate them for speed, and this information is easy enough to find. Here's a few samples:

• 20km/h, according to the CPSC (USA Consumer Product Safety Commission): see http://www.helmets.org/cpscstd.htm, and http://www.bhsi.org/testing.htm
• In Australia: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/04/australian-helmet-standards-what-you-need-to-know/ - this one's unclear on the speed, but mentions that a helmet with a "headform" inside it is dropped from a maximum height of about 1.8m, so the speed can't be that high.
• This page, also Australian, highlights the dishonesty in some helmet testing (search for "A strange study" in the page): http://crag.asn.au/409. It also mentions that the safety testing was done for 5 to 11km/h speeds.
• In this Australian study, testing was done for speeds up to 25km/h: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15389588.2012.727217

Finally, this Australian article sums up why we shouldn't be compelled to wear bicycle helmets and should be allowed to choose for ourselves:
https://ipa.org.au/publications/2019/australia's-helmet-law-disaster

My point was in reply to another post which suggested that there is no fully effective way to look at any helmet of choice and see what speed they are suitable for. I had a good look online and came to the same conclusion. It's simply not possible to pick a helmet suitable for protection at a chosen speed range as this is not freely available info when searching for a helmet. Your links prove this too, as they are inconclusive. Again, mostly Australian links, where it is clear that they are not happy with the compulsory law. Easy picking to quote from.

 

[Tin Pot]

Full body airbags for desk workers, just in case

 

[Licramite]

How do you get out once its gone off?

 

[ianrauk]

How do you get out once its gone off?

You don't.