Apalling actions from an Arriva bus driver

[User6179]

Every forum - like every village - needs an idiot.

I don't think Matthew is one, but I admire him for taking on the role.

Let's call it method acting.

Now this is abusive and a form of bullying and ironic as Mathew didnt say anything as near as bad as this !

 

[Moderators]

@Pale Rider AND everyone else

Keep it civil and avoid personal comments, or the thread will be locked.

Last warning.

 

[lukesdad]

I hear what you are saying but isn't it a case of this whole thing getting out of all proportion. How many of us have experienced this on our commute and just got on with it.

Getting it out of all proportion is the agenda for some and to suck in as many as they can. Just noticed you ve moved to Liss, I used to live in Liphook lovely cycling area, is the cycle shop still by the level crossig ?

 

[Gez73]

I think it should be locked now. All that should and shouldn't be said, has been. Let's have a peaceful weekend and await any updates MatthewT is prepared to share when he finds out. We might run
out of internet!

 

[Sara_H]

Wow. Wether Mathew was right or wrong to go after the driver aside (I confess I've done similar in the past and been far less polite than Mathew was! But I did have PMT at the time, Your Honour) I am absolutely astounded by the ignorance of the Highway Code by the bus drivers concened.

 

[The Jogger]

Well that's the old boy saying on this thread and others. "Put the camera away and enjoy the ride". Along with other leave the camera at home related comments.
I agree his approach needs to change in some situations.

WTF not sure what you mean, do you really mean the older ones on here are anti camera?

 

[lukesdad]

[QUOTE 2614800, member: 30090"]Don't even try with the victim blaming...[/quote]
Oh believe me I'm not even trying.......YET!

 

[The Jogger]

Getting it out of all proportion is the agenda for some and to suck in as many as they can. Just noticed you ve moved to Liss, I used to live in Liphook lovely cycling area, is the cycle shop still by the level crossig ?[/quote]

No the cycle shop is now closed a pity as it is literally a stone throw from me. I have started doing more hills not that there wasn't any around Goodwood but there was more flat routes you could do unlike here. Just come from Liphook, nice area too.

 

[Cycling Dan]

WTF not sure what you mean, do you really mean the older ones on here are anti camera?

The ones saying such do seem to be part of the older generation since most of them start of with "In all my 40+ years of cycling". Also the only anti camera people on here are the anti camera ones if that answers your question.

 

[PK99]

This thread has got me looking at other clips of cyclists confrontations. There are hundreds of them, there seems to be a class of cyclist whose sole wish is to get footage for YouTube, some even seem to see incidents coming but do nothing to avoid them even if it means contact. I was out for hours yesterday in the country and if I had a problem it was cars not wanting to pass me because they figured the road wasnt wide enough. That resulted in me having to speed up hills, something I never do! What did I do with these considerate motorists, well I didn't have a camera to post how nice they were on YouTube so I gave them a friendly wave to say thanks. Do we have a breed of cyclists, guessing more so in towns, that seek confrontation, it appears so.

I've said something similar before. In helmet debates there is a claim that wearing a helmet leads to risk compensation/perceived invulnerability. Some helmet cammers seem to exhibit a similar effect (note, some not all), and, rather than committing to the negotiation of space that is necessary out on the roads, and cycling assertively yet defensively, they cycle in an aggressive way to claim their rights on the road - confident that if they do come a cropper they will have video evidence to prove they were in the right. In doing so, they themselves exhibit some very dubious cycling behaviours. The Droid is a prime example, protected in his cocoon of cameras, he wanders randomly across lanes and then complains when drivers mis-read his intentions, he splits lanes by riding along the white dividing line and complains when passed on either or both sides. Others, eg Gaz, exhibit exemplary cycling behaviour from which we can all learn, and has the honesty to admit to his own goofs.

 

[The Jogger]

The ones saying such do seem to be part of the older generation since most of them start of with "In all my 40+ years of cycling". Also the only anti camera people on here are the anti camera ones if that answers your question.

I'm in that age bracket and I have a camera but hey. I really don't think you can generalise in that way I'm sure a lot of people in the over 40s age bracket have supported Matt. A little bit of ageism from you I believe.

 

[Boris Bajic]

The ones saying such do seem to be part of the older generation since most of them start of with "In all my 40+ years of cycling". Also the only anti camera people on here are the anti camera ones if that answers your question.

I'm considered by some to be one of the 'anti-camera brigade'. I do tend to start posts with "in all my forty years of bicycling", but past a certain age the needle gets a little stuck and we just keep saying the same thing... I am a repetitive and dull old git and know it better than anyone.

Nonetheless (and at the risk of repeating myself further) I am by no means anti-camera. Quite the opposite.

I have praised severally on CC what I think is the sterling contribution of some of the head-cam footage on YouTube. I've mentioned Gaz, BM and other CC contributors.

I've even used the odd snippet of 'sillycyclists' to make one or another point to my children about riding in traffic. I've mentioned this several times.

It is not cameras I find ridiculous. I have a slight issue with posturing, confrontational, trouble-seeking, would-be caped heroes who get shouty in traffic 'for the benefit of us all'. I find such characters ridiculous because... well... they usually are.

Trafficdroid comes to mind, among others.

Cameras are their tool, but the ridicule is born of their attitude. Many do not share this view, which is how the world should be.

 

[Matthew_T]

I'd love to know the outcome regarding the driver and the uneducated chap you spoke at length to.

I will let you know when I get a response.

 

[The Jogger]

I will let you know when I get a response.

Maybe you should tell the company you would hate to see the driver lose his job over it?

 

[classic33]

Wow. Wether Mathew was right or wrong to go after the driver aside (I confess I've done similar in the past and been far less polite than Mathew was! But I did have PMT at the time, Your Honour) I am absolutely astounded by the ignorance of the Highway Code by the bus drivers concened.

Local Arriva drivers are just as bad. Once rode 30 miles to there Wakefield depot after the driver of one of their buses shoved me off the road. I went to return the side radiator panel that had fallen off in the collision.