Discussion in 'Advocacy and Cycling Safety' started by kingrollo, 29 Dec 2017.
I’m not sure how you get to that conclusion?
Same as everyone else, read the stats and make them say whatever you like.
i think he'd come to it before starting the thread.
so do you believe the stats that show there is only one injury of any severity whilst cycling for every 200,000 miles ridden?
I have no idea if cycling is safer or more dangerous that it was years ago, I suspect more cyclists protect themselves better now with brighter clothing, lights, and helmets etc, but that may or may not of been outweighed by busier roads and a more hostile attitude from drivers? My beef is with the stats that just don't seem to add up to the real world. Just follow CC, 1000 regular posters? and not a week goes by without one of us coming a cropper. that would suggest a 1:20 chance of some sort of cycling related injury this coming year (1:40,000 miles?)
I suspect the big anomaly in cycling stats is the amount of miles that are claimed to be ridden. Unlike cars/waggons etc where mileage can be fairly accurately calculated, cycling miles can't. Loads of people who ride a bit in the summer then probably claim to ride most weeks.
You have to consider: Why do you want to know? What do you want to do with this information?
If you want to use it to guide a specific personal decision: "Should I ride my bike from A to B on Wednesday" then really, I doubt that the available statistics are going to be of any real use to you. You'll have to rely on gut feel, your own experience, your own prejudices and preconceived ideas and all that. It won't be entirely rational. Then, having made your decision you can, if you wish, look to the stats for justification - whatever your decision was.
i think you're putting far too much faith in a 'survey' conducted on a forum that the vast majority of cyclists aren't aware exists.
It was only a tentative conclusion - hence the '?'
I had my own incident with a car in November. Thankfully I wasn't hurt. I suffer with anxiety and depression anyway. Pretty much as above I read the stats, but then that doesn't ring true in the real world. 3 cyclists have been killed since September in and around where I live and work. 2 of those casualties are roads I use regularly.
Youre point about miles travelled is good one - not something I have thought of - I wonder if now we have strava could we get more accurate stats from that in future ?
The stat is one reported injury per 200,000 miles. That will exclude most of the minor things we all get from time to time - ankles bashed against pedals, bruise from coming off on ice or gravel, cut finger while fettling - which are of no real relevance to any risk assessment.
But based on which data? That posted here suggests the opposite, a small rise in injury for a large rise in cycling.
Based on the many reasons posted that the stats are out of step with real world.
I'm racking my brains trying to think of a recent cyclist death locally... and in over 40 years, I've never had a cycling incident worthy of reporting to the police or a trip to A&E... so my 'real world' is different to your 'real world'.
How can anyone measure the real world better than the recorded figures?
Of course it is. As I posted earlier I was hit by a car in November - and there have been 3 cycling deaths where I live and work since September. I am not expecting you to replicate that.
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