Are the safety stats misleading ?

Discussion in 'Advocacy and Cycling Safety' started by kingrollo, 29 Dec 2017.

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  1. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    i think he'd come to it before starting the thread.
     
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  2. Slick

    Slick Veteran

    :laugh::laugh:
     
  3. Reiver

    Reiver Legendary Member

    so do you believe the stats that show there is only one injury of any severity whilst cycling for every 200,000 miles ridden?

    I have no idea if cycling is safer or more dangerous that it was years ago, I suspect more cyclists protect themselves better now with brighter clothing, lights, and helmets etc, but that may or may not of been outweighed by busier roads and a more hostile attitude from drivers? My beef is with the stats that just don't seem to add up to the real world. Just follow CC, 1000 regular posters? and not a week goes by without one of us coming a cropper. that would suggest a 1:20 chance of some sort of cycling related injury this coming year (1:40,000 miles?)

    I suspect the big anomaly in cycling stats is the amount of miles that are claimed to be ridden. Unlike cars/waggons etc where mileage can be fairly accurately calculated, cycling miles can't. Loads of people who ride a bit in the summer then probably claim to ride most weeks.
     
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  4. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    i think you're putting far too much faith in a 'survey' conducted on a forum that the vast majority of cyclists aren't aware exists.
     
  5. OP
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    kingrollo

    kingrollo Über Member

    It was only a tentative conclusion - hence the '?'
     
  6. OP
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    kingrollo

    kingrollo Über Member

    I had my own incident with a car in November. Thankfully I wasn't hurt. I suffer with anxiety and depression anyway. Pretty much as above I read the stats, but then that doesn't ring true in the real world. 3 cyclists have been killed since September in and around where I live and work. 2 of those casualties are roads I use regularly.
    Youre point about miles travelled is good one - not something I have thought of - I wonder if now we have strava could we get more accurate stats from that in future ?
     
  7. srw

    srw It's a bit more complicated than that...

    The stat is one reported injury per 200,000 miles. That will exclude most of the minor things we all get from time to time - ankles bashed against pedals, bruise from coming off on ice or gravel, cut finger while fettling - which are of no real relevance to any risk assessment.
     
  8. Fab Foodie

    Fab Foodie hanging-on in quiet desperation ...

    But based on which data? That posted here suggests the opposite, a small rise in injury for a large rise in cycling.
     
  9. OP
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    kingrollo

    kingrollo Über Member

    Based on the many reasons posted that the stats are out of step with real world.
     
  10. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    I'm racking my brains trying to think of a recent cyclist death locally... and in over 40 years, I've never had a cycling incident worthy of reporting to the police or a trip to A&E... so my 'real world' is different to your 'real world'.
     
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  11. OP
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    kingrollo

    kingrollo Über Member

    Of course it is. As I posted earlier I was hit by a car in November - and there have been 3 cycling deaths where I live and work since September. I am not expecting you to replicate that.
     
  12. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    With only something like 110 cycling deaths a year nationally, it's unusual to have 3 nearby. Is it an area that's especially busy like London or shoot for cycling like the West Midlands?
     
  13. OP
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    kingrollo

    kingrollo Über Member

    Yeah, you got it - West Midlands !
     
  14. machew

    machew Veteran

  15. Siclo

    Siclo Über Member

    I've a question with the injuries per x number of miles thing. The number of injuries comes from hospital records, where does the mileage come from?
     
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