Are the safety stats misleading ?

Discussion in 'Advocacy and Cycling Safety' started by kingrollo, 29 Dec 2017.

  1. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    i think he'd come to it before starting the thread.
    CrinklyLion, User231, srw and 3 others like this.
  2. Slick

    Slick Veteran

  3. Reiver

    Reiver Legendary Member

    so do you believe the stats that show there is only one injury of any severity whilst cycling for every 200,000 miles ridden?

    I have no idea if cycling is safer or more dangerous that it was years ago, I suspect more cyclists protect themselves better now with brighter clothing, lights, and helmets etc, but that may or may not of been outweighed by busier roads and a more hostile attitude from drivers? My beef is with the stats that just don't seem to add up to the real world. Just follow CC, 1000 regular posters? and not a week goes by without one of us coming a cropper. that would suggest a 1:20 chance of some sort of cycling related injury this coming year (1:40,000 miles?)

    I suspect the big anomaly in cycling stats is the amount of miles that are claimed to be ridden. Unlike cars/waggons etc where mileage can be fairly accurately calculated, cycling miles can't. Loads of people who ride a bit in the summer then probably claim to ride most weeks.
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  4. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    i think you're putting far too much faith in a 'survey' conducted on a forum that the vast majority of cyclists aren't aware exists.
  5. OP

    kingrollo Über Member

    It was only a tentative conclusion - hence the '?'
  6. OP

    kingrollo Über Member

    I had my own incident with a car in November. Thankfully I wasn't hurt. I suffer with anxiety and depression anyway. Pretty much as above I read the stats, but then that doesn't ring true in the real world. 3 cyclists have been killed since September in and around where I live and work. 2 of those casualties are roads I use regularly.
    Youre point about miles travelled is good one - not something I have thought of - I wonder if now we have strava could we get more accurate stats from that in future ?
  7. srw

    srw It's a bit more complicated than that...

    The stat is one reported injury per 200,000 miles. That will exclude most of the minor things we all get from time to time - ankles bashed against pedals, bruise from coming off on ice or gravel, cut finger while fettling - which are of no real relevance to any risk assessment.
  8. Fab Foodie

    Fab Foodie hanging-on in quiet desperation ...

    But based on which data? That posted here suggests the opposite, a small rise in injury for a large rise in cycling.
  9. OP

    kingrollo Über Member

    Based on the many reasons posted that the stats are out of step with real world.
  10. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    I'm racking my brains trying to think of a recent cyclist death locally... and in over 40 years, I've never had a cycling incident worthy of reporting to the police or a trip to A&E... so my 'real world' is different to your 'real world'.
    Last edited: 31 Dec 2017
  11. OP

    kingrollo Über Member

    Of course it is. As I posted earlier I was hit by a car in November - and there have been 3 cycling deaths where I live and work since September. I am not expecting you to replicate that.
  12. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    With only something like 110 cycling deaths a year nationally, it's unusual to have 3 nearby. Is it an area that's especially busy like London or shoot for cycling like the West Midlands?
  13. OP

    kingrollo Über Member

    Yeah, you got it - West Midlands !
  14. machew

    machew Veteran

  15. Siclo

    Siclo Über Member

    I've a question with the injuries per x number of miles thing. The number of injuries comes from hospital records, where does the mileage come from?
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