Are they all like this?

[Bollo]

If a club ride was going at 12mph, they don't need to practice their group skills, they need to practice their going-a bit-quicker skills.

Anyway, the whole story sounds like guff to me.

 

[Origamist]

Really ?
Ignorance and arrogance is just the same on two wheels and on four. It gives fuel to the anti cyclist brigade, p----s of perfectly reasonable drivers who would usually be quite thoughtful [nobody wants to be late for work] and as above any motorist trying to get past would face a whole load of verbal. Crap riding is crap riding - it's time we stopped finding excuses for it.

With the crucial exception that the consequences of ignorance and arrogance are vastly different depending on whether you're riding a bicycle or a driving a motor vehicle.

 

[Crandoggler]

Your account of what you saw simply isn't credible. It's standard knee-jerk stuff from someone who has clearly internalized the widespread resentment of groups of cyclists daring to use roads that motorists erroneously regard as theirs.

If you have nothing else credible to say, please politely fark off.

You weren't there, you did not see it, you are clearly tied up within the anti motorist brigade and bare no empathy for people who want to go about their day to day business.

I don't need to justify myself to you, for use of poor calculations. It was simply use of elaborate numbers to highlight the problem I saw. Numerous cyclists I passed managed to cycle respectfully, but not these guys.

So, good bye.

 

[theclaud]

Flounce-tastic! Often happens when people are caught out bullsh*tting.

 

[Crandoggler]

Are you sure they were 4-5 abreast? In the past our club has received quite unfounded complaints that we were doing this on leisure rides, when we were riding quite legally 2 abreast. Unless the group is riding very closely and tidily behind one another it is easy to see the bunch as being all across the road, although only 2 abreast, especially viewing from an angle as you would be if approaching the group on the opposite side of the road for example

This was the reason for the post. Most groups I see, are riding 2 abreast, they move over to create a train.

Genuinely can't believe how much flak I've taken for noting something that seemed abnormal!

 

[Crandoggler]

Flounce-tastic! Often happens when people are caught out bullsh*tting.

Most definitely not. I'll pop out next Saturday and grab you a snap shall I?

 

[Andrew_P]

Well that escalated quickly..

 

[Crandoggler]

Well that escalated quickly..

I'll make sure I don't make remarks for other cyclists bad habits in the future.

 

[theclaud]

Most definitely not. I'll pop out next Saturday and grab you a snap shall I?

If you feel that will help, please do.

 

[buggi]

20+ all in single file. How long do you think that would stretch for? Don't you think that would be much harder to overtake? And more dangerous? If they were only blocking their own lane then they were doing exactly the right thing. It's a speed limit not a target and had they been a tractor would you even question it?

 

[Crandoggler]

20+ all in single file. How long do you think that would stretch for? Don't you think that would be much harder to overtake? And more dangerous? If they were only blocking their own lane then they were doing exactly the right thing. It's a speed limit not a target and had they been a tractor would you even question it?

Nope. You're right. Can imagine a tractor would keep a higher speed though. Justsayin'

 

[theclaud]

[QUOTE 3913872, member: 9609"]Looking at my picture above it does look very feasible to have 8 wide in one lane, and although I am 95% on the side of the cyclist - some do take the piss[/QUOTE]
Sorry - I thought your pic was a gag. Or did the OP witness some strange new hybrid pro-bimbling?

 

[buggi]

Nope. You're right. Can imagine a tractor would keep a higher speed though. Justsayin'

Not necessarily. It depends on the type and what its pulling. The bottom line is, if there was a lane to overtake then that's ok. If they were taking up the other lane then it's not. Being in a group is far safer for them than being in single file, unless you want them to compromise their safety for the convenience of a motorist?

Perhaps even the reason the cars weren't overtaking was because you were coming? By being there, surely you are part of the problem. And surely, had they been in single file, you would not have been too happy if a driver had squeezed between you and them if he overtook them (most likely at speed to get past 20+ cyclists) so maybe, in the end, they did you a favour?

 

[Origamist]

I'll make sure I don't make remarks for other cyclists bad habits in the future.

Thousands of posts on CycleChat criticise cyclists. It was the hyperbole that meant many people would call BS on your OP.

 

[EltonFrog]

I didn't see this particular group, however I do live near Didcot & Wallingford, and there is a group of "mature" cyclists I've seen riding the roads here that do seem to have a " riding style" of their own. They often meet up at the Root One cafe on the Wallingford road. I wonder if it's them?

I also wonder if we could keep the unpleasantness off the posts?