Are they all like this?

[Drago]

Yes but exercising your right if it makes it safer, by preventing bad overtakes, is worth it, even if some drivers are slowed by a few seconds.

My safety trumps your convenience.

It MIGHT make you safer - however, if there should be a complete dilbert who's going to overtake come what may then it may actually make you more vulnerable, and when a tonne and a half of steel is being forced through then his convenience will seriously trump your safety.

Some consideration as regards making a move appropriate to the circumstances is what makes you safer, not blindly insisting on doing one thing or another because it's your right. Taking the actions calculated to have the best chance of keeping you alive at that exact moment in time is the thing to do, and if that means surrendering for a moment one of your "rights" then the only thing that gets injured is your ego, which heals a lot quicker than your spine or skull.

 

[glenn forger]

Some consideration as regards making a move appropriate to the circumstances is what makes you safer, not blindly insisting on doing one thing or another because it's your right.

Once again, nobody has said anything like that, you're arguing with voices in your head.

 

[Markymark]

It MIGHT make you safer - however, if there should be a complete dilbert who's going to overtake come what may then it may actually make you more vulnerable, and when a tonne and a half of steel is being forced through then his convenience will seriously trump your safety.

Some consideration as regards making a move appropriate to the circumstances is what makes you safer, not blindly insisting on doing one thing or another because it's your right. Taking the actions calculated to have the best chance of keeping you alive at that exact moment in time is the thing to do, and if that means surrendering for a moment one of your "rights" then the only thing that gets injured is your ego, which heals a lot quicker than your spine or skull.

Yep. Don't do it always but I choose when and if I do it, nobody else.

 

[Brandane]

I often wonder what a CC pub meet would be like.

"Bring weapons." Probably.

Many regional variations, methinks . Us civilised folks at CC Ecosse manage to meet up on occasions without any blood being spilled. Perhaps a more laid back approach to cycling and life in general is a help. As for some of those pub meets advertised in that big city in SE England that look like a SCP night out; I'd rather stick pins in my eyes whilst undergoing a colonoscopy.

 

[Simpleton]

Gawd blimey Guv'nor, relax and mellow my lovelies, relax and mellow.

The issue here is if the cyclists were taking up the whole road or the whole lane.

whole lane is fine as other motor vehicles by rights should be in the opposite lane when overtaking.

whole road is fine as the cyclists safety supersedes car people wantong to get to work.

in short, bike persons are right, carry on.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

@dave r
Im pretty local to you Dave, I head out regularly on a Tuesday with a few others that join me. Feel free to tag along. Usually do a 20-40+ mile ride , Going to Kingsbury this Tuesday. I am not fast though 12mph avg if im lucky on those rides.

Sounds great, unfortunately I'm working, but I'm due to retire in just over a year so I'll try and remember for then.

 

[EltonFrog]

Dirk Diggler claimed that cyclists riding away from him at a total speed of 30mph held up the following drivers for 25 minutes. He has no possible way of knowing this, so the rest of his claims are suspect and unreliable.

So what, no one cares except you.

 

[EltonFrog]

Not so, i care. He made some wild essentially claims based on the premise that we shouldn't inconvenience motorists. I for one am perfectly prepared to concede road when it doesn't inconvenience me but, that aside, I happy to assert my and your right to be on the road.
If you don't want to assert your right, I guess you will just have to rely on someone else.

Well that is a load off my mind.

 

[Crandoggler]

People who want other road users to yield to their every desire when riding, yet don't want to reciprocate the same courtesy to other road users, because it may inconvenience them.

Wow.

Is it any wonder there's a profound hatred from the motorist to the leisure cyclist.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Not so, i care. He made some wild essentially claims based on the premise that we shouldn't inconvenience motorists. I for one am perfectly prepared to concede road when it doesn't inconvenience me but, that aside, I happy to assert my and your right to be on the road.
If you don't want to assert your right, I guess you will just have to rely on someone else.

Oh for goodness sake, what is your "right" worth if the impatient motorist runs you over?
The other day I got a close pass on a 20mph narrow road, with speed bumps and cars parked along both sides - which are cycle lanes btw.
What chances have we got? I was in the centre of my lane, of course had to swerve to the left, he wasn't going to stop!
Once I almost swore at a dog that was crossing the road off the leach, right in front of my wheel.
The owner, indignant, said " she (a she dog) has the same right as you to use the road.
Aye, right!

@Crandoggler as shown in the diagram posted above, sometimes it is indeed safer for a group to cycle bunched up.
There could be another reason too for the 2 abreast: we do this when there are inexperienced cyclist in the group and we have to take a busy road.
The experienced ones ride on the outside to protect the newbies from aggressive traffic. Obviously, we try to stay on traffic free paths as much as we can, but the new cyclist has to learn the road somehow.

 

[Crandoggler]

I agree, looking back, maybe a bulk would have been easier to overtake, especially with the amount of cyclists there were. It just seemed a bit over the top for a Saturday morning bimble, where cars had a good ~couple of miles with no chance to pass.

Horses for courses I suppose. But not my kettle of fish.

 

[glenn forger]

People who want other road users to yield to their every desire when riding, yet don't want to reciprocate the same courtesy to other road users, because it may inconvenience them.

Wow.

Is it any wonder there's a profound hatred from the motorist to the leisure cyclist.

Where did you get that 25 minute delay from? You made it up, didn't you?

 

[Markymark]

They weren't 8 wide. They weren't going 12mph. Nobody was delayed 25 minutes.

It's all nonsense.

 

[Markymark]

Yeah but the embellishment helped to make the point.

Here's what I think happened. Driver happily driving along. Sees some cyclists in a group and had to slow a little to safely pass. Forgets entirely that said driver slows for other cars constantly. Gets very annoyed that these cyclists made the driver go slowly for a few seconds.

Takes to a forum to write a whinge. Realise what the cyclists did, when writing is actually not that bad. Exaggerates the story to justify their annoyance. Gets upset when it unravels and people can see it's all just a load of bias tosh.

 

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