Are we being forced to go electric?

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MrGrumpy

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Also factor the distance covered. I've added up our EV mileage from our cars. In the last 3 years we've done over 100,000 miles on electric. The emissions saved are huge from tailpipe to using renewable electric supplies.
We have done half that mileage in the same period maybe even less :whistle: . Some of us are reducing our car usage quite a bit :okay: , that’s the key not what you drive !
 

CXRAndy

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We have done half that mileage in the same period maybe even less :whistle: . Some of us are reducing our car usage quite a bit :okay: , that’s the key not what you drive !
I agree, but we need to take our kids to school. By far the better option to use an EV. :okay:
 

figbat

Slippery scientist
Can they not walk :whistle:
My EV does the school run exclusively now - the petrol car we also have sits idle for long periods until it is needed for longer journeys, larger capacity, shifting loads (bicycles, caravan etc) and/or separate concurrent journeys. The school is 8 miles away, so a bit too far to walk and there is no safe cycling route (even if the kids were up for that, which they're not).
 
They can walk, but it would make an African's kids school walk seem like a 5 min stroll :laugh:

They'd arrive after school had finished. Reminds me when I used to work 25hours a day, get up before I went to bed Monty sketch ^_^

We need to think about this in the future - if the kids are to have a future. Local jobs, local schools. I loved my walks to school - well tbh the walks HOME were better - but making a rod for our own backs so we need to have a car to take the kids to school, and then need a job to pay for the car that takes the kids to school etc....

No housing estates should be built unless they have bike paths to schools/shops.
 

CXRAndy

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We need to think about this in the future - if the kids are to have a future. Local jobs, local schools. I loved my walks to school - well tbh the walks HOME were better - but making a rod for our own backs so we need to have a car to take the kids to school, and then need a job to pay for the car that takes the kids to school etc....

No housing estates should be built unless they have bike paths to schools/shops.
I remember walking to school at 5-6yrs old,












about 1 mile on my own-I was not loved :ohmy:
 

Alex321

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They can walk, but it would make an African's kids school walk seem like a 5 min stroll :laugh:

They'd arrive after school had finished. Reminds me when I used to work 25hours a day, get up before I went to bed Monty sketch ^_^
When I was a kid, the "school run" simply didn't exist.

If you lived more than 3 miles from the school, you got a free bus. If less than 3 miles, you were expected to walk or cycle (I used to cycle, it was about 2.5 miles to my grammar school after the first two years, before that it was bus.).

It really should not be necessary now. One day last year, I happened to be cycling through Cowbridge when the local comp was finishing, and I counted 14 school buses between the traffic lights and the school, so why does any parent need to drive their kids to school?
 

figbat

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When I was a kid, the "school run" simply didn't exist.

If you lived more than 3 miles from the school, you got a free bus. If less than 3 miles, you were expected to walk or cycle (I used to cycle, it was about 2.5 miles to my grammar school after the first two years, before that it was bus.).

It really should not be necessary now. One day last year, I happened to be cycling through Cowbridge when the local comp was finishing, and I counted 14 school buses between the traffic lights and the school, so why does any parent need to drive their kids to school?
I live in a rural area. The school my kids go to is also in a rural village. The catchment area is very wide and covers many similar villages and small towns. The school operates a network of minibuses but they can only realistically cover certain routes without the journeys being convoluted and long. Besides, the school is on a direct line on my way to work, where I am going anyway.

When I were a kid I went to the school in my town, which was a 15 minute walk or 5 minute cycle (assuming straight there and back again :whistle:).
 

Archie_tect

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I doubt anyone would object to a rural school requiring farm children to be bussed or driven to school- car sharing is a great idea too. It's the urban school runs where the homes are a mile or less from school who need to make alternative arrangements- like a 'walking bus'. Our children all met up on the street each morning and walked together.

The reduction in delays [and savings*] from half an hour's standing traffic in the morning and in the evening would be incredible... [* unless everyone has an EV or a hybrid] but then some second cars wouldn't even be needed at all- comes down to priorities and lifestyle choices.
 
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farfromtheland

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We need to think about this in the future - if the kids are to have a future. Local jobs, local schools.

Yes! But it isn't simply lifestyle choices - options are set by the lack of strategic planning. Housing developments are still being built with commuting in mind. All the electic cars, carbon offsetting or green roofs imaginable won't mitigate this quick profit driven model.

It is more of a choice to send your children to the local school though. Unfortunately privately rented housing is so tenuous you might not stay there for long.
 

DRM

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No, but you can be sure all your fuel is from oil. These discussions are almost the same as the ones 25 yrs ago, when you would have been saying `solar panels wont work as there is not enough sun in the UK.'
Your just practicing avoidance as you don't want your life to change. Same as the global warning denial and now the fatalism of if the USA does nothing then we should do nothing.
Not practicing avoidance, just stating the obvious, yet once all the ice cars have gone, let’s see how the EV’s get taxed to replace lost revenue from petrol & diesel :okay:
 

MrGrumpy

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Road pricing I guess.
So it pays to go EV asap and reap the benefits for as long as possible.
A bit of man maths going on here :laugh: . Priced up a Tesla today as our company offers lease options for cars. Scary biscuits :whistle: , defo cash positive keeping my Death Star running. The leaf however was a lot closer to breaking even but still costs more per month. I’m holding off for now :okay:
 
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