Are we being forced to go electric?

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icowden

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Surrey
I’m normally in agreement with your analyses but I can say from experience that my petrol MINI got 350-380 miles from a ‘charge’ (my electric MINI gets the 100 you state). But the point is that I rarely drove my petrol MINI over 100 miles in one go and so far my electric one has taken me everywhere I have needed it to.

Fair enough :-) I was just going by some stats from Mr Google. It probably depends on the model of Mini and the age of the Mini.
 

figbat

Slippery scientist
Fair enough :-) I was just going by some stats from Mr Google. It probably depends on the model of Mini and the age of the Mini.
Indeed. My case is quasi-scientific since the petrol one and electric one are almost the same power and general performance and I drive them over the same roads at the same times And have done so back-to-back.
 

CXRAndy

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Lincs
Not everyone can afford £43,000 for a used Tesla 3 . That is about all I can find price wise . I do not see new prices .
There are other makes Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, and others that are much cheaper, will do well into the 200+ range even 250+ miles in summer. We have a Nissan Leaf+ and Id planned to go and collect a dog from Leeds around 220 mile round trip I was going to stop at knottingley services for a rapid charge. This would take approx. 35mins
 
A journey up to Yorkshire in a petrol drive car takes 4.5 hrs with a stop at Leicester Forrest .
The new presenter on Fifth Gear gave some interesting figures . I think she was driving a Kia or Hyundai EV range over 300molrs yet she was saying that you have your eye constantly on the charge gauge . She went on to cover domestic charging times . A conventional charge from home on a flat battery to full would take 28hours. The programme featured some electric city cars . An electric Mini . I think the range was 100+ , not sure of exact figures . Charging time from 20% to 80% charge 36 minutes . Now if we were to go for a car like that we would get to Gloucester and charge . 36 mins . Leicester charge ,36 mins . Sheffield 36 mins + 4.5 hours minimum . That is if the charging points were free.

That Fifth Gear had some interesting things but then the final selection for their city car - was which one was fastest round a track.

In what way was that relevant to a city car ? Just lazy program making.
I've never raced my car round a track in all my years - absolutely pointless.
 

Jenkins

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Felixstowe
That Fifth Gear had some interesting things but then the final selection for their city car - was which one was fastest round a track.

In what way was that relevant to a city car ? Just lazy program making.
I've never raced my car round a track in all my years - absolutely pointless.
I think it was also in the top two for cost, shortest range, size and weight (the Honda e)
 
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gzoom

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Just came home from a 200 miles weekend break in the peak district. We stayed in a lovely nearly 300 years old cottage with no off road parking, but thanks the ubiquity of electricity, a simple 3 pin plug + extension cable sorted any charging issues out.

Coming up to 5 years in this car soon, 50K+ miles on the clock, its getting easier and easier to live with an EV.

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Electric_Andy

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Plymouth
My local Morrison's has just got an EV charging station in the car park. Only one, but I can see more of them being put in in future. It must be a good incentive for people to charge their car whilst they shop
 

CXRAndy

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Lincs
Daughter has returned from 720 mile trip in our Model 3. Absolutely loved the way it drives, simplicity of charging. She said that if she'd done the journey in her old Polo, she would have stopped for the same time to refuel, eat and stretch legs. She loves adaptive auto cruise :okay:
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Been thinking about this, no desire, need or reason to have an electric car, but i wouldn't object if it became affordable, and more importantly for me personally, I had access to a charging point ( my car has to be parked on road with no current access to electricity)
Biggest journeys are generally a 120 mile round trip, 3 maybe 4 times a year, commute 15 miles each day so perfectly do-able day today...and lets face it, many affordable ICE cars have no character anymore its just a change In mindset and a very occasionally change in routine or planning on a long distance trip.
I could see myself with one but currently have no access to charging equipment of any sort.
Still not convinced batteries are the future mind, no current recycling, availability of materials etc etc.
 

MrGrumpy

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Fly Fifer
Been thinking about this, no desire, need or reason to have an electric car, but i wouldn't object if it became affordable, and more importantly for me personally, I had access to a charging point ( my car has to be parked on road with no current access to electricity)

you have a while yet , contrary to what you read on here petrol and diesel will be around along time yet. Brand new hybrids will be banned from 2035 remember ! EVs Will I hope anyway become a bit more affordable and by then also we will see what like a 10yr old EV residually and the nick of the batteries.
 

Alex321

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South Wales
you have a while yet , contrary to what you read on here petrol and diesel will be around along time yet. Brand new hybrids will be banned from 2035 remember ! EVs Will I hope anyway become a bit more affordable and by then also we will see what like a 10yr old EV residually and the nick of the batteries.
I reckon between 15 and 20 years before it becomes unviable to keep running a petrol car, possibly a little longer for diesel. That being mainly due to all the filling stations that sell petrol closing as demand drops to the point they aren't financially viable. Diesel will probably last a bit longer because of goods vehicles, although the filling stations for those would have to keep providing the lower volume pumps that cars need.
 
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