Are we being forced to go electric?

[vickster]

Maybe the ID3 then ? That's about that size. Or the Kia E-Nero, or Peugeot e2008?

None of those are estates though. Two are small hatchbacks, one a large SUV. I seek practicality but not size
Hopefully in 10 years find what I want exists…or my wants have changed

 

[Alex321]

I would add a third reason:
Charging anxiety - will there be working charges on my long trip; will they be hogged by ICE or an EV that has finished charging; and how much extra time is added to my long trip.

That is really what the first of my points is mainly about I think.

 

[icowden]

None of those are estates though. Two are small hatchbacks, one a large SUV. I seek practicality but not size
Hopefully in 10 years find what I want exists…or my wants have changed

Unfortunately if you want an estate that usually comes with length these days. Isn't the Fabia just a hatchback?

 

[Alex321]

Unfortunately if you want an estate that usually comes with length these days. Isn't the Fabia just a hatchback?

It has an estate version (The Skoda Fabia Wagon in their terminology).

 

[presta]

Fiat are withdrawing all their petrol & diesel cars from sale in 31 days:
https://news.motors.co.uk/fiat-announces-its-full-range-will-be-electrified-from-july/

 

[vickster]

Unfortunately if you want an estate that usually comes with length these days. Isn't the Fabia just a hatchback?

No, has a proper sized boot

 

[icowden]

No, has a proper sized boot

OK, so Skoda Fabia Estate boot capacity is 530 / 1395 litres and is 4.3m long
ID4 is 4.5m long and has 543 / 1665 litres
That's probably the closest match. Unfortunately as soon as you go less than 4.5m long the boot space reduces significantly.
The Enyaq has huge boot space but is 4.6m long.

I went (am going eventually if it ever gets delivered?) ID4 as it's only a little less than my Renault grand scenic which has 596l of space and is 4.6m long. It's a decent family car size without being a chelsea tractor style vehicle IMHO.

 

[figbat]

In this report* it states that there are three critical tipping points for consumer EV mass adoption in the UK (there are different numbers and different priorities for fleet managers):

• Price below ~£23,700
• Range above 455 km/283 miles
• Charge time of 30 minutes

* a commercially-sponsored report - take it as you find it

 

[figbat]

Seat are behind the curve and don't have an EV available.

SEAT handed EV off to the Cupra brand - there's now the Cupra Born EV. No doubt there will be full EV SEAT-branded models in future but this is where it starts. A bit like Volvo carving Polestar off as the electrified brand, then electrifying the Volvos too.

 

[vickster]

OK, so Skoda Fabia Estate boot capacity is 530 / 1395 litres and is 4.3m long
ID4 is 4.5m long and has 543 / 1665 litres
That's probably the closest match. Unfortunately as soon as you go less than 4.5m long the boot space reduces significantly.
The Enyaq has huge boot space but is 4.6m long.

I went (am going eventually if it ever gets delivered?) ID4 as it's only a little less than my Renault grand scenic which has 596l of space and is 4.6m long. It's a decent family car size without being a chelsea tractor style vehicle IMHO.

The boot is plenty big enough for me, seats down no need to take the front wheel off. I don’t need anything bigger Just me and my bikes

 

[tyred]

Fiat are withdrawing all their petrol & diesel cars from sale in 31 days:
https://news.motors.co.uk/fiat-announces-its-full-range-will-be-electrified-from-july/

Given their reputation for dodgy electrics, in the immortal words of Sgt. Wilson - "Do you think that's wise, sir?"

 

[icowden]

Fiat are withdrawing all their petrol & diesel cars from sale in 31 days:
https://news.motors.co.uk/fiat-announces-its-full-range-will-be-electrified-from-july/

Let me fix that for you.

Fiat are ensuring that all of their current petrol & diesel cars will be fitted with their mild hybrid technology that replaces the starter motor and alternator. The cars will not be able to run on electrical power alone and will still require diesel or petrol. But it's great PR.

 

[cougie uk]

In this report* it states that there are three critical tipping points for consumer EV mass adoption in the UK (there are different numbers and different priorities for fleet managers):

• Price below ~£23,700
• Range above 455 km/283 miles
• Charge time of 30 minutes

* a commercially-sponsored report - take it as you find it

I'll probably only get a charge away from home 6 days out of 365. Charge time isn't an issue for me and my range is only 145 or so.

 

[icowden]

In this report* it states that there are three critical tipping points for consumer EV mass adoption in the UK (there are different numbers and different priorities for fleet managers):

• Price below ~£23,700
• Range above 455 km/283 miles
• Charge time of 30 minutes

Really the first one is the tipping point. At the moment it's very expensive to buy most EVs - particularly the family size ones.

 

[MrGrumpy]

I would call the Skoda Enyaq a small e-estate, although they call it an SUV.

Don’t tell this pesky lentil chomping tyre extinguishers about the Skoda . It will be on their hit list .