Are we being forced to go electric?

[Alex321]

Where does the electric come from? Wouldn’t happen to be a power station would it, that burns wood and rubbish

Some does. Some comes from, renewables. More will come from renewables in future.

If and when we get an EV, all our home charging will be, since we have just ordered a solar system for home. And that is becoming more an more common, quite apart from the renewable energy going into the national grid.

 

[Alex321]

Show me an energy provider that only supplies you with renewable energy ?

I might have some magic beans that may interest you ?

Quite a few do now.

 

[Alex321]

That’s 60% that isn’t then, you’ve chosen a billing company that can’t make that claim as you can’t pick and choose which electrons get sent to your house

The claim they make is that they purchase enough energy from renewable sources to supply all those on the renewable tariff.

Which is a perfectly reasonable claim.

 

[CXRAndy]

Ive just swapped today to 5.5p for 5 hours of overnight electric. Ive setup timers to charge at this time

 

[Alex321]

They are confident that the problems will be overcome.

Funny how other car manufacturers don't seem to believe that.

I have no doubt they can make a working hydrogen engined car. I do not for one moment believe they will be able to make it competitive with regular EVs, nor do I think it likely that the costs of creating, transporting and storing the hydrogen will be competitive with charging regular EVs.

Hydrogen Fuel-cell EVs are slightly more likely and some are already in production), but will still have the fuel supply chain issues.

Unless they can persuade other manufacturers to go down the same route, and all of them produce enough vehicles, there will simply be no incentive for anybody to set up hydrogen filling stations.

It isn't impossible, but IMO it is very unlikely to happen.

 

[Biker man]

Funny how other car manufacturers don't seem to believe that.

I have no doubt they can make a working hydrogen engined car. I do not for one moment believe they will be able to make it competitive with regular EVs, nor do I think it likely that the costs of creating, transporting and storing the hydrogen will be competitive with charging regular EVs.

Hydrogen Fuel-cell EVs are slightly more likely and some are already in production), but will still have the fuel supply chain issues.

Unless they can persuade other manufacturers to go down the same route, and all of them produce enough vehicles, there will simply be no incentive for anybody to set up hydrogen filling stations.

It isn't impossible, but IMO it is very unlikely to happen.

TIme will tell.

 

[cougie uk]

I think it's told already. I'm already seeing plans for EV charging stations around here.
Nothing about hydrogen garages for the one (?) Toyota car that could use it.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

It all sounds rather unfortunate for motorcyclists. The announcement has also meant that for the next few decades, cars won't have the improvements that would have otherwise come in emissions, so emissions won't decline as fast as they may have done.

 

[cougie uk]

Apart from the switch to electric cars you mean ?

Petrol cars have had 100 years to improve so why would there be much improvement left to be had ?

 

[Alex321]

Apart from the switch to electric cars you mean ?

Petrol cars have had 100 years to improve so why would there be much improvement left to be had ?

Because it is only in the last few years that they have really been paying serious attention to emissions.

Most of that 100 years was devoted to improving power, with some attention to improving fuel consumption. The latter will have indirectly improved emissions of course, but not as much as might have been.

 

[gavroche]

I thought the catalytic converter was meant to cut down emissions ? Nobody mentions that anymore, could someone tell why?

 

[Archie_tect]

Ive just swapped today to 5.5p for 5 hours of overnight electric. Ive setup timers to charge at this time

Our cheaper economy 7 tariff runs from 1:30 to 5am now... it used to be 11-7 when I were a lad!

 

[figbat]

I thought the catalytic converter was meant to cut down emissions ? Nobody mentions that anymore, could someone tell why?

Because they are not new. They are passé, but they are still an important factor in minimising emissions. They can only do so much though.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Some does. Some comes from, renewables. More will come from renewables in future.

If and when we get an EV, all our home charging will be, since we have just ordered a solar system for home. And that is becoming more an more common, quite apart from the renewable energy going into the national grid.

Long way to go I’d say https://grid.iamkate.com/

 

[cougie uk]

Long way to go I’d say https://grid.iamkate.com/

Just look how far we have come since 2012 though ?