Are we being forced to go electric?

[Beebo]

Did you see the big drop in power demand overnight on the graphs' you supplied. This is where most EV owners charge and why its cheap electric because there is excess energy that needs to be used.

No solar at night though.
Im amazed that hydro is so low. It must be much harder to capture tidal energy than we were led to believe, as no one seems to be doing it.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

No solar at night though.
Im amazed that hydro is so low. It must be much harder to capture tidal energy than we were led to believe, as no one seems to be doing it.

I did wonder what had happened to that, a long time ago there was a lot of talk about it but thats just faded into the background now.

 

[Archie_tect]

No solar at night though.
Im amazed that hydro is so low. It must be much harder to capture tidal energy than we were led to believe, as no one seems to be doing it.

There's solar 24 hours a day somewhere- which is entirely the point of a global solution...

 

[cougie uk]

No solar at night though.
Im amazed that hydro is so low. It must be much harder to capture tidal energy than we were led to believe, as no one seems to be doing it.

I guess putting stuff in the sea needs more work than stuff out of salt water. But I'm sure we will get it sorted eventually. Wind turbines improve each year - huuuuge blades on them now.

 

[CXRAndy]

You should look up Viking and Triton knoll links for energy. Energy can and does come from various countries. My high jump photo

 

[BrumJim]

There's solar 24 hours a day somewhere- which is entirely the point of a global solution...

Not easy getting it from there to here though.

But the demand for electricity at night is much lower than during the day, so charging at night uses a much greater percentage of renewables than during the day.

 

[figbat]

Im amazed that hydro is so low. It must be much harder to capture tidal energy than we were led to believe, as no one seems to be doing it.

Hydroelectric power in the UK is mostly from pumped storage reservoirs, as well as some unpumped (naturally-filled) and small amounts of river-flow turbines. Wave/tide capture energy is still a small blip on the chart.

We are not as topographically endowed with hydroelectric capability as some countries.

 

[figbat]

Hydroelectric power in the UK is mostly from pumped storage reservoirs, as well as some unpumped (naturally-filled) and small amounts of river-flow turbines. Wave/tide capture energy is still a small blip on the chart.

We are not as topographically endowed with hydroelectric capability as some countries.

Which makes me wonder if the hydroelectric capacity being claimed is gross or net? In other words, do they take out the energy used to pump the water into the reservoir in off-peak times? Or does that simply show up in one of the other power source figures?

 

[cougie uk]

Considering we had our first hydroelectric scheme in 1878 - it's not really caught on in the UK. Wish I had a river running through my garden - I'd be sorted !

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/features/hydropower-returns-to-cragside

 

[CXRAndy]

Not easy getting it from there to here though.

Speed of light fast

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

They - whoever 'they' are - keep coming up with plans for tidal power in the Mersey

I was reading about the newest version a few weeks ago

Given the power and flow rate there has to be a possibility of doing something but nothing ever happens
I presume it just turns out to be too expensive to build and maintain - and the ecological costs always turn out to be a problem

 

[farfromtheland]

We are not as topographically endowed with hydroelectric capability as some countries.

Well, bits of us are, but the wrong bits these days. Wales and Scotland are the ideal centres of future industry. Both sides of the Pennines can work. London and the south east need to be put out to pasture.

Small scale hydro and tidal power work fine - there just isn't big money profit in it.

Battery power storage of any kind is deeply regressive in terms of global resources - but for a little while it gives us the illusion of consumer comfort. Scrap that! We are pampered stupid.

 

[mustang1]

I can remember the outrage when petrol reached £1 a litre in the 1990s. Some garages had to change their pumps because they could only cope with a 2-digit price. I don't drive anymore so if it is a conspiracy to get people out of petrol cars then it's working.

I remember when it changed from gallons to litres. I'm sure there was a massive price hike in there somewhere. People generally don't like numbers so the oil companies got away with it.

 

[cyberknight]

There's solar 24 hours a day somewhere- which is entirely the point of a global solution...

there on about satellite solar arrays beaming energy via microwave to stations

 

[farfromtheland]

I would rather have local windmills or watermills pumping water into storage towers running turbines - even with a 30% mechanical energy loss both ways. This is clean and fixable by ordinary competent people.

Less washing, less heating and less rubbish and ditching commuter culture would be the price. I'll buy that.