Are we being forced to go electric?

[midlife]

It’s this charger. Any ideas on what it will charge just out of curiosity.

 

[CXRAndy]

It’s this charger. Any ideas on what it will charge just out of curiosity.

Rolec, type 2 connection. Most likely 7kW. but could be 3.6kW.

Type 2 is the most common charger connection, pretty much every car now use type 2 for home use.



https://www.rolecserv.com/home-charging

Based near Boston Lincs.

 

[Chislenko]

There are also a lot more subscription models for charging, meaning the suppliers are making a steady monthly income even if you don’t charge.

You're not selling this very well!!

 

[Chislenko]

There is no obligation to buy anything other than electric if you don't want to.

So what do you do, stand around like one of Burton's?

 

[cougie uk]

You're not selling this very well!!

I'll be darned if I'm signing up to anything like that. Charging away from home is incredibly rare.

On holiday I was just charging with any debit card. No hassle. This is the way it will go.

 

[DRM]

It'd be a short sighted company that wouldn't put a charger in - especially if you sell things or don't want to look like a stick in the mud.

When I was working we would provide coffees and sometimes lunches for our suppliers. We'd not charge them for this. Why would a bit of electric be an issue?

These places aren’t shops/cafes that are open to the general public, I’m referring to factories and manufacturing plants, you are getting nothing from them, yet they still get visitors

 

[DRM]

It'd be a short sighted company that wouldn't put a charger in - especially if you sell things or don't want to look like a stick in the mud.

When I was working we would provide coffees and sometimes lunches for our suppliers. We'd not charge them for this. Why would a bit of electric be an issue?

Most work places don’t even have a canteen these days, the chargers are for company vehicles only, those run by management or directors, no one else , not staff let alone visitors, it’s an attitude that will get worse as more EV’s are in use

 

[CXRAndy]

So what do you do, stand around like one of Burton's?

Longest charging I've done is 40 mins. I wander to the loos, stroll back, play on internet for a little while. Hell I might push the boat out and get a black tea or coffee.

My Tesla has lifetime free supercharging so I can afford to splash out on refreshments

 

[cougie uk]

These places aren’t shops/cafes that are open to the general public, I’m referring to factories and manufacturing plants, you are getting nothing from them, yet they still get visitors

I was talking about a very large group of factories in my example.

 

[midlife]

Trying to think if there are any at my hospital, don't remember seeing any but might be at the back of a car park somewhere. There are three at the RVI multi story in Newcastle where I park.

Car parking there has gone from £7.20 for 5 hours to £18 for 5 hours. I wonder if they are thinking of charging less for EV?

 

[Milzy]

Richard Hamster Hammond has basically said you need to be doing mass above average mileage in an EV for 10 years to offset the overall carbon footprint. Yet he has just bought a top of the range Merc E.V costing more than some houses.

 

[icowden]

For the concerned, here is what BP is doing:
https://www.bp.com/en/global/corpor...magining-energy/electric-vehicles-update.html

and Shell
https://www.shell.co.uk/a-cleaner-energy-future/cleaner-transport/electric-mobility/ev-hub.html

 

[classic33]

Two points of order.

• The Tesla X does not have gull wing doors, it has falcon wing doors.
• The Texla X and S are the most intelligent cars that money can buy. They have two AI chips which independently assess traffic and danger before combining their knowledge to choose the most appropriate action.

Involved in nearly 70% of crashes in vehicles with advanced driver-assistance systems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/15/tesla-autopilot-crashes/

 

[CXRAndy]

Involved in nearly 70% of crashes in vehicles with advanced driver-assistance systems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/15/tesla-autopilot-crashes/

That's because Tesla are way out in front of vehicles on the road with advanced safety features compared to anyone else.

Tesla safety record is better with safety systems engaged.

As one safety engineer phrased.

Autonomous vehicles don't need to be perfect, just better than Humans driving

 

[CXRAndy]

Richard Hamster Hammond has basically said you need to be doing mass above average mileage in an EV for 10 years to offset the overall carbon footprint. Yet he has just bought a top of the range Merc E.V costing more than some houses.

He is talktout of his arse. He doesn't have a clue, just headline clickbait comments. There is more to running an EV. For me no emissions and significant cheaper to run are right up there