Are we being forced to go electric?

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classic33

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Jameshow said:
I doubt most Amazon drivers do a large number of miles our seems to park and do half a dozen from a static point! Like cricket getting a century isn't too slow if your hitting sixes!!
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The nearest amazon depot is just shy of 40 miles away. DHL & DPD are 22 & 26 miles away by road. So you'd have to factor that distance in, twice, before you get to your delivery area. Then the deliveries don't have as much left for them to be done.
 
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classic33 said:
The nearest amazon depot is just shy of 40 miles away. DHL & DPD are 22 & 26 miles away by road. So you'd have to factor that distance in, twice, before you get to your delivery area. Then the deliveries don't have as much left for them to be done.
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So the depot staff have to ensure the deliveries are within range. Different to diesel vans the motors in EVs are not running continuously.
 
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classic33 said:
The nearest amazon depot is just shy of 40 miles away. DHL & DPD are 22 & 26 miles away by road. So you'd have to factor that distance in, twice, before you get to your delivery area. Then the deliveries don't have as much left for them to be done.
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They maybe from you, but their first drop could be just around the corner from their depot. So 40 miles could be the furthest they get. Ample range for slow moving stop start journey


You do know they can also recharge from 10-80% in 30 mins from a rapid charging. I'm sure there is some form of break for the driver during the day in case of apocalyptic disaster
 
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classic33 said:
For which fast acceleration and a high top speed are not required.
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I only know a few vehicles which are not capable of reaching 70mph. Most will exceed 100mph this includes ICE vehicles. Most EV are around 99-125mph top speed my fastest is limited to 155 mph. This was 20mph slower than the fastest ICE I owned previously
 
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CXRAndy said:
I only know a few vehicles which are not capable of reaching 70mph. Most will exceed 100mph this includes ICE vehicles. Most EV are around 99-125mph top speed my fastest is limited to 155 mph. This was 20mph slower than the fastest ICE I owned previously
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But, as you have consistently pointed out the acceleration of an electric car is greater than that of a petrol or diesel powered one.

And since we're now at a "new age" with vehicles power source, despite it predating the older technology, why don't manufacturers design and build cars suitable for modern roads. Roads on which speed limits are being dropped. It could make urban streets safer as a result. But who'd want to pay for a vehicle which is limited to road speed limits?

The times they are a changing, and that includes the roads on which you are driving.
 
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CXRAndy said:
They maybe from you, but their first drop could be just around the corner from their depot. So 40 miles could be the furthest they get. Ample range for slow moving stop start journey


You do know they can also recharge from 10-80% in 30 mins from a rapid charging. I'm sure there is some form of break for the driver during the day in case of apocalyptic disaster
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Their assigned delivery area is that far from their depots. Then they start their deliveries. This forum is full of stories of how delivery drivers are just throwing parcels over fences, leaving them outside properties because of the time restrictions. So whilst there may be a break period for the driver, can they actually take it without falling behind?

Break down and they've to get someone else in to do your deliveries. Meaning you lose out twice.
 
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classic33 said:
But, as you have consistently pointed out the acceleration of an electric car is greater than that of a petrol or diesel powered one.

And since we're now at a "new age" with vehicles power source, despite it predating the older technology, why don't manufacturers design and build cars suitable for modern roads. Roads on which speed limits are being dropped. It could make urban streets safer as a result. But who'd want to pay for a vehicle which is limited to road speed limits?

The times they are a changing, and that includes the roads on which you are driving.
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You never saw an advert for a ICE vehicle that extolled the performance to sell them. I can't believe you have never driven a car that had a bit more performance than your standard transport.

The electric motor offers huge torque compared to an ICE vehicle. I've mentioned our Leaf will outpace most ICE. It isn't promoted first as a performance car, just a family hatchback. Our Tesla are high performance vehicles and will out accelerate most ICE. That doesn't make the car more dangerous. It's the driver who is the danger
 
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Surely both should be. I really don’t see the point in vehicles intended only for the road being able to exceed the speed limit, perhaps plus a margin. It is irresponsible to promote top speeds of 100 mph plus in advertising.

I could imagine more automation in the future. ‘You are now entering a 20 mph zone, this vehicle is slowing down’
 
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CXRAndy said:
You never saw an advert for a ICE vehicle that extolled the performance to sell them. I can't believe you have never driven a car that had a bit more performance than your standard transport.

The electric motor offers huge torque compared to an ICE vehicle. I've mentioned our Leaf will outpace most ICE. It isn't promoted first as a performance car, just a family hatchback. Our Tesla are high performance vehicles and will out accelerate most ICE. That doesn't make the car more dangerous. It's the driver who is the danger
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Who consistently point out the superior acceleration rate of electric vehicles.
 
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geocycle said:
Surely both should be. I really don’t see the point in vehicles intended only for the road being able to exceed the speed limit, perhaps plus a margin. It is irresponsible to promote top speeds of 100 mph plus in advertising.

I could imagine more automation in the future. ‘You are now entering a 20 mph zone, this vehicle is slowing down’
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Musk doesn't want that though. At least not for "his" vehicles.
 
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geocycle said:
Surely both should be. I really don’t see the point in vehicles intended only for the road being able to exceed the speed limit, perhaps plus a margin. It is irresponsible to promote top speeds of 100 mph plus in advertising.

I could imagine more automation in the future. ‘You are now entering a 20 mph zone, this vehicle is slowing down’
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Cars are not only made for UK limits. In Europe 80mph is common, Germany still has huge sections of autobahn, where extremely high speed can be attained.

Maybe that's where it will end when every vehicle is connected to the AI grid
 
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