Aren't "hipsters" on "fixies" cyclists too?

[GrumpyGregry]

I don't understand your point, but either way I'm not calling anyone anything.

Quite the opposite: categorising people because of how they look and our experience of a minority of that (perceived) group is the sort of generalisation about which we, rightly, complain when it comes from the likes of Clarkson.

A cyclist is someone who cycles.

I don't complain about Clarkson. Generalisations and stereotypes are very useful, especially in the area of humour.

If someone cycles through a shopping centre or pedestrian precinct or RLJ's or rides with no lights or horror of horror rides a BMX or a crooozer are they still a cyclist?

 

[lukesdad]

I don't complain about Clarkson. Generalisations and stereotypes are very useful, especially in the area of humour.

If someone cycles through a shopping centre or pedestrian precinct or RLJ's or rides with no lights or horror of horror rides a BMX or a crooozer are they still a cyclist?

Of course, no one said anything about good and bad cyclists did they ?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I don't understand your point, but either way I'm not calling anyone anything.

My point? If someone behaves like an idiot (on or off a bike) just because they ride a bike and I ride a bike that does not redeem them or their behaviour in my eyes. Thusly some sad fashion victim with an individuality bypass does not redeem the tragedy of their herd behaviour by being a sheep on a bicycle. Though they are hugely funny.

 

[Scilly Suffolk]

Useful sometimes, but rarely accurate.

Yeah, I'd say all your examples are cyclists, but feel I'm missing your point.

 

[gaz]

 

[Canrider]

That sounds like a Canadian village is missing an idiot...

?In North Yorkshire?

 

[Scilly Suffolk]

My point? If someone behaves like an idiot (on or off a bike) just because they ride a bike and I ride a bike that does not redeem them or their behaviour in my eyes. Thusly some sad fashion victim with an individuality bypass does not redeem the tragedy of their herd behaviour by being a sheep on a bicycle. Though they are hugely funny.

I'm didn't set out to defend poor riding, but not everyone with rolled-up jeans, a quiff and a satchel is a bad rider.

I see far worse, more often from riders with helmets, hi-viz vests and baskets on the front, but it doesn't mean everyone who looks like this is an idiot.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Useful sometimes, but rarely accurate.

Yeah, I'd say all your examples are cyclists, but feel I'm missing your point.

Then I am disapproving of many "cyclists."

My definition, given elsewhere, you are a cyclist if you say you are not if someone else labels you as such. I am not a cyclist. Another saying I am doesn't make me one. I am only a cyclist if I regard myself as one.

and I seriously doubt the vast majority of people in the UK who ride bikes consider themselves to be cyclists.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

?In North Yorkshire?

Who am I to judge the scale of their idiocy!

(yeah, I forgot you're in blighty. whoops!)

Please tell me he is a city urban urbane hipster and isn't riding his fixie around a village in the dales....

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I'm didn't set out to defend poor riding, but not everyone with rolled-up jeans, a quiff and a satchel is a bad rider.

I see far worse, more often from riders with helmets, hi-viz vests and baskets on the front, but it doesn't mean everyone who looks like this is an idiot.

But you'll concede they look like one?

 

[Canrider]

Who am I to judge the scale of their idiocy!

(yeah, I forgot you're in blighty. whoops!)

Please tell me he is a city urban urbane hipster and isn't riding his fixie around a village in the dales....

He is a city urban urbane hipster. His rims are semi-deep section and white, brandless, his tyres are whitewall IIRC, and his frame is stickerless beige. He rides gingerly, clad in tweed.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I'm didn't set out to defend poor riding, but not everyone with rolled-up jeans, a quiff and a satchel is a bad rider.

btw are you setting out to defend poor taste in clothes and herd behaviour?

(I own a satchel, a messenger bag, sometimes roll up my jeans, and own a fixed btw. and several cardigans. my quiff days are long gone so I wear a tweed cap instead)

 

[GrumpyGregry]

He is a city urban urbane hipster. His rims are semi-deep section and white, brandless, his tyres are whitewall IIRC, and his frame is stickerless beige. He rides gingerly, clad in tweed.

Can he trackstand?

 

[lukesdad]

But you'll concede they look like one?

What does it matter what they look like ?

 

[Canrider]

Can he trackstand?

For all I know, he's perfected it in his room in halls. No clue whatsoever, but then he rides it around a uni campus.