Aren't "hipsters" on "fixies" cyclists too?

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OP
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Scilly Suffolk

Scilly Suffolk

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I can see where you're coming from but my definition of a cyclist, and the whole point of my argument, is a very literal one: just someone who rides a bike: nothing further is inferred.

I don't see the merit in branding people as all behaving in one way or another just because of a superficial similarity; anymore than I would on account of their race, religion or sex.
 

deptfordmarmoset

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A POB is a cyclist. The person who rode up the pavement on market day this Wednesday in Deptford High Street when there really wasn't room to pass me, who decided perversely not to jump out of his way, causing a crossing of my arm with POB's wide handlebars, ended up cycling into a phone box. How was I to know he didn't have working brakes? Cyclist, yes, but definitely a subject for total contempt.
 

GrumpyGregry

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For all I know, he's perfected it in his room in halls. No clue whatsoever, but then he rides it around a uni campus.
If he can't trackstand or has teeny weeny narrow dildo bars I start to worry. But by having no brakes he is the very definition of a tragic hipster. He may be a very nice fellow all the same. Unless his chain is a bit slack.
 

GrumpyGregry

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A POB is a cyclist. The person who rode up the pavement on market day this Wednesday in Deptford High Street when there really wasn't room to pass me, who decided perversely not to jump out of his way, causing a crossing of my arm with POB's wide handlebars, ended up cycling into a phone box. How was I to know he didn't have working brakes? Cyclist, yes, but definitely a subject for total contempt.
A cyclist is a cyclist. The person who rode up the pavement on market day this Wednesday in Deptford High Street when there really wasn't room to pass me, who decided perversely not to jump out of his way, causing a crossing of my arm with cyclist's wide handlebars, ended up cycling into a phone box. How was I to know he didn't have working brakes? Cyclist, yes, but definitely a subject for total contempt.

Well that is how the non-cycling public see it. If you catch my drift.
 

GrumpyGregry

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I can see where you're coming from but my definition of a cyclist, and the whole point of my argument, is a very literal one: just someone who rides a bike: nothing further is inferred.

I don't see the merit in branding people as all behaving in one way or another just because of a superficial similarity; anymore than I would on account of their race, religion or sex.
Neither do I generally but for the purposes of this comedy debate why do you insist on branding everyone who rides a bike as a cyclist?

Think you may be a bit wrong on the religion one btw, surely people of the same religion are like to share a lot of views in common but let's not go there.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
A cyclist is a cyclist. The person who rode up the pavement on market day this Wednesday in Deptford High Street when there really wasn't room to pass me, who decided perversely not to jump out of his way, causing a crossing of my arm with cyclist's wide handlebars, ended up cycling into a phone box. How was I to know he didn't have working brakes? Cyclist, yes, but definitely a subject for total contempt.

Well that is how the non-cycling public see it. If you catch my drift.

Viewed by cyclist: areshole on a bike.
Viewed by non-cyclist: areshole on a bike.
No, I'm not getting it so far.
 

lukesdad

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Neither do I generally but for the purposes of this comedy debate why do you insist on branding everyone who rides a bike as a cyclist?

Think you may be a bit wrong on the religion one btw, surely people of the same religion are like to share a lot of views in common but let's not go there.
Well the debate started off well enough, Im sure you going are to get to the point eventually so i ll bite, why do you get hung up about the term cyclist ?
 

GrumpyGregry

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What does it matter what they look like ?
Hi-viz doth offend mine eye.

and I worry that some of the folk wearing it think it means they can be utterly crap riders by reason of their flouresence

and be honest, if I turned up to go mtb'ing with you wearing an old army greatcoat, wellies and a pickelhaube on me head you'd make a teeny little judgement about me based on how I was dressed.
 

lukesdad

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Hi-viz doth offend mine eye.

and I worry that some of the folk wearing it think it means they can be utterly crap riders by reason of their flouresence

and be honest, if I turned up to go mtb'ing with you wearing an old army greatcoat, wellies and a pickelhaube on me head you'd make a teeny little judgement about me based on how I was dressed.
You are tarring a group with the brush that is used to associate you with them are you not ?
 
OP
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Scilly Suffolk

Scilly Suffolk

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Neither do I generally but for the purposes of this comedy debate why do you insist on branding everyone who rides a bike as a cyclist?

Think you may be a bit wrong on the religion one btw, surely people of the same religion are like to share a lot of views in common but let's not go there.
You quoted my post in which I explained what I meant by a "cyclist"...

Not all, for a contemporary example, Muslims are extremists is what I was getting at.
 

rowan 46

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Neither do I generally but for the purposes of this comedy debate why do you insist on branding everyone who rides a bike as a cyclist?

Think you may be a bit wrong on the religion one btw, surely people of the same religion are like to share a lot of views in common but let's not go there.
I think because they are cyclists. in the same way that a person driving a car is a motorist and when they get out of their cars and walk they become pedestrians.
 
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