Armstrong charged and banned

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johnr

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On a lighter note:
Granddaughter No 2's new word to take back to school after the hols is 'schadenfreude'. I had to explain why I was in such a good mood.
 

zimzum42

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S.Africa's leading cartoonists take:

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rich p

ridiculous old lush
ironically, the info I'd seen was 'just look how wiggins and froom can't do the same as the guys from the 90's"..
That's what I heard. I read an interview with Wiggins where Rogers was telling him that the wattages Nibali etc were putting out on a break were such that unless the rider was doped it was unsustainable. He was proved right.
 

marinyork

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Not trying to be clever at all.
The UCI have laid down rules for when cyclists are disqualified.
Armstrong has been disqualified.
The rules should be followed as in the cases of Contador and Landis.
What has happened in Athletics maybe interesting, but I don't see how it will influence what should happen in this case.
There'll be plenty of argument, but provided the UCI follow their own rules, there should be no justification to ask Judge Sparks or his equivalent to intervene.

Forgot to say that at the moment there is no official 3rd place in the 2005 tour de france. Correct me if I'm wrong. I was going to say this earlier, but just been reminded by a piece crackle posted. Which actually says things better than I could.
 

marinyork

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Alun

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So, if Pantani doped and could be found to have done so, virtually impossible I know, and if Bjarne Riis admitted so, then that would leave Jan Ullrich, potentially as six times winner of the TDF!!

Did Ullrich ever test positive?
6 times winner? Which years are you thinking about?
 

Alun

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Man your in for one hell of a shock when this finally breaks that LA is a cheat

Don't bother getting all quote back at me I am happy for you to carry on believing in him living a drug free life in Texas with the Easter Bunny and Santa
For the record I've thought that Armstrong was a doper for years.
What has upset you, was my summary of your post inaccurate in some way?
 
From Cycling News....
Spidertech-C10 team director Steve Bauer, who wore the yellow jersey in the Tour de France for 14 days in the mid-to-late 1980s, said it's time to put the controversy to rest.
“I have a personal statement that's pretty simple,” he told Cyclingnews on Friday. “Lance versus USADA has nothing to do with our sport now. And that's all I have to say about that.”
But Bauer did have more to add, saying the future of the sport looks positive because of the much stricter drug testing regimes and protocols.
“The UCI has done a great job of developing the anti-doping program: the biological passport that all our professional cyclists have to abide by and adhere to,” he said. “We have the most stringent anti-doping policy of any sport in the world, which has probably imposed the cleanest professional sport in the world. So that's it. That's all I've got so say.”

Bauer, for those who don't know, was slyly beaten to silver in '84 in LA by an american cyclist, Grewal, who later admitted to doping.
Bauer is a bit of a hero of mine, having grown up in the same town, and I think his views should be respected, he knows what he is on about.
 

albion

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USADA now needs to stop looking the other way when it comes to actual big money American sports.

On a world basis I'm sure drugs in boxing are almost standard issue.
It is so dodgy it is hard to envisage anything otherwise.
 
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