Bike on BA from France - any recent experience?

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frank9755

Cyclist
Location
West London
We're intending to bring the bikes back on British Airways from Marseille, using CTC plastic bags in a couple of weeks' time.
BA say you have 23kg which should mean that we can strap a pannier to each bike - although I am tempted to pay for the extra to send them separately so that the bikes are not over-heavy / cumbersome and hence piss off the baggage handlers!
Anyone got any recent experience with BA and hence any tips (other than the normal stuff about spacers in forks, pipe lagging, undo rear mech, etc!)?
 
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mmmmartin

Random geezer
We flew from Bordeaux with easyjet on sunday after the recce. Two us used £1.50 dustsheets that were far too thin and fragile, light to carry but not up to the job really. Two used the CTC bags, which were brilliant but a tenner more and heavier to ride with.
In the past I have used mattress bags, they are also good, and free.
Leave the wheels in. Twist handlebars and turn them so they are down, if you see what i mean, but also twist your sti units so they are inside the handlebars and protected by them. Put a pedal strap or rope around the front wheel and tie it to the frame so it doesn't flap about, this makes it much easier to put the bike on a trolley, upright so it is not too wide to fit into doors.
Drop the saddle as far as possible. Remove pedals but then put them back on inside, so one of them protects your big chainring if the bike is dropped eg on to a kerb. Remember the check-in staff are worried only that you have paid for the bike space, while security have a different agenda: so put the valve caps at 6 oclock and remove valve caps and cut a small hole near them. If you are then told to let the air out, do so easily and quickly. In Vienna a security guard put his Stanley knife through the front tyres of our bikes to let the air out. Get there massively early, allow an hour to fettle the bikes and plan to be the first at check in. We allowed three hours from arrival at the terminal to take off and made it by 10 minutes, too close for comfort. Remember you may have to check in at one place and then go half a mile to oversize luggage where they will want to lay it on a conveyor belt and wave goodbye to it, then return to the first check-in, and in bordeaux that is a different building and on a different floor so we had to get four bikes and four trolleys from one terminal to another and back again. In crushing heat and lots of fat people getting in the way, you will wish you had just ridden home.
Hence dropping the saddle to get it into the scanner, if you have straight bars you might want to loosen the holding nuts on the stem and shift the bars backwards so the end of the bars at the front of the bike is lower.
I prefer to remove rear mech and tape it so it is inside the chainstay, others do not.
BA are good to fly with but i would not risk the pannier idea, if you do not have a bag to put it in just either check it into the hold with your puncture repair kit and its glue, plus all your metal parts, or put it in a big plastic bag, as gordon did, and tape the whole thing up with parcel tape. Remember you will need a small knife for cutting tape so when you have fettled the bike, do remember to slip that knife into your hold bag. Two armed policemen were called to deal with me when i forgot the penknife in my pocket at gatwick. Not something i will forget again.....
 

22camels

Active Member
I've flown 4 times with BA in the past year (Heathrow-Lisbon, Madrid-Heathrow, Gatwick-Venice, Venice-Gatwick) with my bike. It was easy every time. I use a custom bike bag made of solid black material so you can't see what's inside. When I have spoken to BA on the phone to check about their bike policy, they say that the bag must only contain the bike. But at check in they didn't seem to care if you have anything else inside, so I have put a few kg extra (lock, tools, helmet..) and even up to 10kg extra (a full pannier and a sleeping mat). If challenged, I intended to say "how do you define a bike"? But they only cared about the total weight, and even when this was 24kg (1kg over the limit) because of two bottles of wine I had to bring back, they were ok. The last time coming back from Venice I immediately had to take it to security and load into onto the x-ray scanner, thought they would make a fuss, but no questions were asked. Maybe I was lucky. They have also never checked if my tyres were down or my pedals were off.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I haven't been with BA for a few years so can't help on that score Frank.
When I flew Easyjet back from Toulouse, a year or so ago, I got 2 cardboard boxes from the local Decathlon - they needed trimming to size.
I had intended buying their cheapest bike bags and flogging them when I got back but they were out of stock!
 
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frank9755

frank9755

Cyclist
Location
West London
Thanks everyone: some interesting thoughts.
I think we'll just decide what to do at the airport. It might be that we can cram most of our stuff into the big panniers and carry it on (BA gives you 23kg carry on weight and 23kg in the hold) just leaving a few tools, tent pegs, liquids and weapons of mass destruction in the small panniers strapped to bike. Or, if there is too much stuff, it would be £40 to cable tie the big panniers together to make an extra bag - which I'd rather do if I felt it would reduce the risk of bike damage.
The problems of touring - what pleasant things to have to worry about:smile:
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
Reading this thread with interest as I am soon to be flying to Bordeaux with BA (from Glasgow, via Gatwick).
I have sourced a bike box from my LBS (well not so local, thanks Dales!). I have had a dry run at packing my Tricross into it and although I am not entirely happy with the protection the box is going to give, it will have to do.
It weighs in at 21kg with a pannier and a few bits and pieces thrown in. I am hoping they will let me take the other pannier and a bar bag as hand luggage.
Return trip is by ferry and train, so no problems there.
I will be very relieved if my bike makes it to Bordeaux unscathed. I have done the usual stuff like remove pedals, unscrew rear derailleur, displace bars and let down tyres etc..
 

mmmmartin

Random geezer
@Brandane do put spacers in the front forks or they may be banged sideays and bent. Spacers give them a bit more strength to resist that. Also be careful when using a box to ensure the rear wheel cassette is on the outside, if it is next to the frame it might be squashed against your nice paintwork and damage the paintwork and the cassette.
Personally, I prefer a strong plastic bag and use Fragile tape to make it all neater as well as emphasising the fragility of the package.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
@Brandane do put spacers in the front forks or they may be banged sideays and bent. Spacers give them a bit more strength to resist that. Also be careful when using a box to ensure the rear wheel cassette is on the outside, if it is next to the frame it might be squashed against your nice paintwork and damage the paintwork and the cassette.
Personally, I prefer a strong plastic bag and use Fragile tape to make it all neater as well as emphasising the fragility of the package.
Thanks. My bike fits in the box with rear wheel still fitted. The front wheel has to be removed, and the spacer for the forks came with the box, as well as numerous lengths of foam protectors for the frame. The most vulnerable bit will be the front wheel wedged between frame and side of box, even with extra cardboard protection.
 
Location
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We opted for the CTC clear bag and complete bike (bars turned, pedals off) last year and will do the same this year.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
We opted for the CTC clear bag and complete bike (bars turned, pedals off) last year and will do the same this year.

Ordered from Wiggle and delivered within 2 days, so will be giving this a try rather than the cardboard box option. Hoping for sympathetic, cyclist baggage handlers at 3 airports!
 
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frank9755

frank9755

Cyclist
Location
West London
Well, the bikes made it back ok but a couple of oddities.
I took the front wheels of each bike out and cable tied them to the side, as I normally do. But both wheels were ripped off in transit, which required snapping three cable ties. And one of the front wheels had a puncture that looks like it will need a new tyre (sidewall damage). A moderate inconvenience coming home, but would have been a pain to have to find a new tyre at the start of a tour.
I think that next time I'll just leave the front wheel in.
 

robjh

Legendary Member
Well, the bikes made it back ok but a couple of oddities.
I took the front wheels of each bike out and cable tied them to the side, as I normally do. But both wheels were ripped off in transit, which required snapping three cable ties. And one of the front wheels had a puncture that looks like it will need a new tyre (sidewall damage). A moderate inconvenience coming home, but would have been a pain to have to find a new tyre at the start of a tour.
I think that next time I'll just leave the front wheel in.
So BA are definitely taking CTC clear bags now? That's good news as in 2009 some BA airport staff were refusing them (said from bitter experience). Let's hope the message has got through to all their people now.
 
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