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What do they actually do on a bike service? My bike is long overdue it's first one (bought it online so no freebie 6 weeker), but I'd quite like to know what a normal first service consists of. And if there are any good websites to tell me how to learn about servicing the bike myself...
If the wind stays this strong I will pop up on the bike and do it for you. You will have to fly me back though.......
 

potsy

Rambler
Location
My Armchair
I found this video which seemed the most straightforward one for adjusting BB7's so I'm guessing the same applies for BB5's?

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MteJPn4jBs

No, the BB5's only have an adjuster on one side so are not as easy unfortunately, it involves loosening the whole calliper and adjusting that way, easier to do than explain.
 

HorTs

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Location
Portsmouth
I think my brakes are a bit s***, but I had to set them up myself (with youtube help) and still think they're rubbish, it might just be my paranoia though... Will a basic first service sort all that?

After six weeks I'd imagine the pads are bedded in but did you follow the Avid bedding in procedure?
 
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sazzaa

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After six weeks I'd imagine the pads are bedded in but did you follow the Avid bedding in procedure?

Nope, wasn't aware there was one!

Just taken the bike into work this morning and it's definitely not my paranoia, down a big steep hill the brakes were shocking.
 

Unimaginative

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Here's a good article on how to adjust the BB5's: http://www.ecovelo.info/2011/04/15/a-foolproof-method-for-adjusting-avid-bb5-disc-brakes/

I found that my BB5's ended up at their best by following the directions in that article, then adjusting the cable tension - pre-loading the cable by moving the caliper arm a few mm before tightening the nut to hold the cable in place, and then use the barrel adjuster to increase the tension to just before the pads start to rub on the rotor.

If your disc rotor is not true, then use an adjustable spanner to (lightly) bend the rotor back to true - if it's new then likely to be pretty okay without any truing but best to check. The less true your rotor, the farther your pads will have to be from the rotor to avoid rubbing and the worse your brakes will be. After truing you may need to run through the caliper/pad and cable tension adjustments again.

Also, clean your rotor - you can get disc brake cleaner from Halfords for £5, just spray and wipe with a clean cloth.
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
What do they actually do on a bike service? My bike is long overdue it's first one (bought it online so no freebie 6 weeker), but I'd quite like to know what a normal first service consists of. And if there are any good websites to tell me how to learn about servicing the bike myself...

Kick the tyre and tap the top tube!
 
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sazzaa

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Here's a good article on how to adjust the BB5's: http://www.ecovelo.info/2011/04/15/a-foolproof-method-for-adjusting-avid-bb5-disc-brakes/

I found that my BB5's ended up at their best by following the directions in that article, then adjusting the cable tension - pre-loading the cable by moving the caliper arm a few mm before tightening the nut to hold the cable in place, and then use the barrel adjuster to increase the tension to just before the pads start to rub on the rotor.

If your disc rotor is not true, then use an adjustable spanner to (lightly) bend the rotor back to true - if it's new then likely to be pretty okay without any truing but best to check. The less true your rotor, the farther your pads will have to be from the rotor to avoid rubbing and the worse your brakes will be. After truing you may need to run through the caliper/pad and cable tension adjustments again.

Also, clean your rotor - you can get disc brake cleaner from Halfords for £5, just spray and wipe with a clean cloth.

It's still all a bit foreign to me (barrel adjuster? caliper arm?) but I'm starting to understand bits thanks to the videos. I'll probably have a go at it when I'm on lunch today. Hoping my engineer boss is in and offers to do it for me.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
Bike servicing must be the biggest con since.... since.... I dunno but it's a con. A good bike fettler can assess the condition of a bike with a few simple checks and if nothing needs adjusting they won't do anything. Bikes need regular tweaking and maintenance to keep running at their best so I can't understand how a rider can allow their bike to get so far out of adjustment that it actually needs professional attention. Rim brakes wear and need the slack taking out of the cable, chains need regular cleaning and light lubrication, and gears need adjusting especially early in the bike's life as cables settle. All bike riders ought to be able to perform these simple adjustments every week. Beyond that a bike needs very little attention and there certainly aren't any oils or filters that need changing regularly as with a car, which does need regular servicing.

Cable discs are tricky to set up but should work fine for months unless ridden in very muddy conditions. Take out the pads and put them in the dishwasher - there's nothing hotter or more caustic or better for degreasing contaminated pads. With BB5s and BB7s, when replacing the pads be sure to push them into the caliper firmly until there's a positive click, otherwise they will be hanging half out and touching the disc at an angle.
 
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sazzaa

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I can't understand how a rider can allow their bike to get so far out of adjustment that it actually needs professional attention.

It's not like you just grow up knowing these things though! I wanted to cycle to work so I bought a bike... That didn't instantly make me an expert on fixing bikes!
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
Granted. A lot of cyclists have been bodging and fettling bikes since childhood. Are there any evening classes you can attend?

I have seriously thought about organising a cycle club for my street, which would be an excellent way of getting to know the neighbours. The idea would be to hold a midweek fettling and setup session in the church hall then all go out for a nice gentle ride at the weekend. I bet all my tools would disappear though.
 
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I don't suppose anyone can recommend a good bike stand? I know there was a thread somewhere about a £30 ebay one but searching for the word "stand" means I get hunners of results...
 

Brandane

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I don't suppose anyone can recommend a good bike stand? I know there was a thread somewhere about a £30 ebay one but searching for the word "stand" means I get hunners of results...
£16 delivered.

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Somebuddy

Über Member
Location
Lanarkshire
Probably not, if they've been crap from new (unless they were badly set up). What kind of brakes/bike is it? Some are just not very good. Others can be improved by replacing the brake blocks/pads with something better quality. e.g. My Tricross has cantilever brakes which have a reputation for being pretty much ineffective at stopping in a hurry. Replaced the standard pads with Koolstop ones, and it transformed the braking power.
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Brandane, which koolstop pads do I need for my tricross? Your link shows a lot of choice, none mentioned cantilevers. Do you still have the extra brake levers on the top of the handlebars. Ta
 
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