Bored cops bully kids

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swee'pea99

swee'pea99

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I suppose I should be relieved that not everyone has responded with 'your daughter's obviously lying to you. the police wouldn't do that', and/or personal reminiscences of occasions when the police would or should definitely have been involved. Still, it's a tad depressing.

First off, seven. Yes, it was seven. Of this I am confident. My daughter may on occasion exaggerate, but on such a basic fact, I have no doubt she would not lie. She was shocked. As am I. If you choose not to believe her, that's your prerogative, but seven cops turned up and invaded her friend's house, for no good reason.

Booze? Of course there was booze. I never said anything about tiddleywinks and ice-cream. They were a bunch of nice, well-behaved 15-16 year olds letting off steam before getting into the last lap of pre-GCSE preparations. They were mostly on that horrible fruit-flavoured cider, by all accounts, and I'm sure several had had more than too much. Kids do that. There may even have been a spliff or two (though the cops didn't find any); such things are not unheard of among bright 15-16 year olds.

But there was no violence, no-one was getting hurt, nothing was getting damaged, the music was not excessive, and no-one had been the least put out by a teenagers' party, in London, at 9 o' clock on a Saturday night. Other than one neighbour, who for reasons unknown (some kind of personal grudge?), decided to call the police.

Who, in my opinion, should have been told that if you live in a big city, you have to expect the odd party at 9 of a Saturday evening, now if you'll excuse us, we have work to do. Or at most, sent a car round with a couple of cops to have a word, make sure nothing untoward was going on, give a heads-up that anything bad would be dealt with firmly. Instead, it was used as an opportunity to turn up mob-handed, scare the shoot out of a bunch of harmless teens, ruin their fun, for absolutely no good reason, and cause real damage to community relations. Is that what we pay them for? I don't think so. If you do, you're entitled to your views. Best hope it doesn't happen to your kids, eh?

And to paraphrase Neil Kinnock's famous speech, do be careful not to be black, or gay, or anything else young, bored hyped up cops take a dislike to. Because if you do, and they decide to take it out on you, you're sure to find yourself surrounded by a smug community assuring you that 'you must have been asking for it'.
 

Arjimlad

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You could ask to speak to the duty Inspector about this.
 

Accy cyclist

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I blame liberal parenting,and a lack of respect for the police!
I've heard youngsters and not so young ones,call police officers "mate" when they're getting their collar felt!:ohmy: They should talk their way out of trouble like we used to do. Calling the police officer sir and offering a small donation to the police benevolent fund always seemed to get us off with a "You don't seem bad lads,don't do it again".:angel: :whistle:
 
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OK, but I am a bit confused with the bit about someone being knocked unconscious. That's a potentially life threatening injury, that requires an ambulance, an xray, observation etc etc. I would have thought the ambulance arriving and taking the kid away would have been the highlight of the story, but it doesn't feature at all in the story above.

If the police failed to call an ambulance, I'd be going straight to the IPCC - that's really serious. And if the kids failed to call an ambulance, then that's proof they are too young to have an unsupervised party.

(of course, if you just didn't cover that bit of the story, then apologies to @swee'pea99 and daughter)
 
Were you trying to pull your copy of PACE 1984 out and it was a bit tight?
No, I was looking for this book.
 

w00hoo_kent

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Other than one neighbour, who for reasons unknown (some kind of personal grudge?), decided to call the police.
It probably all depends on what the neighbour reported seeing. Even in the 90's it was amazing quite what would turn up in London if a disgruntled neighbour told the police they'd seen two people carrying submachine guns in to a house... In that case they might have got a hasty warrant, they definitely didn't merely 'knock' on the door though.
 

Pale Rider

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Do I get the impression most of the guests were young gels?

Coppers are notorious for having an eye for the ladies, so I expect five of the seven were only there to see what they could see.
 

cd365

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Why do people think it was the neighbours who complained? There is more chance that it was a malicious call by someone who couldn't get into the party.
Teenagers having a bit of alcohol, in a house causing no external trouble, sounds very sensible to me. I would rather it was done like that than up a park, getting hammered and causing trouble.
Some right fuddy duddies in here!
 
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swee'pea99

swee'pea99

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They were mostly girls, there were only 20 or so all told, and yes there are two sides to every story, as I conceded in my OP. Nevertheless, I'd be really interested to hear any 'story' that would make the actions of the police good policing, as against, say, seeing their uniform as giving them an opportunity to throw their weight around and follow their own agenda. Say, Nothing better to do? Let's go and bust a few snot-nosed middle-class kids for possession.
 
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