Ok, CopperCyclist & I have agreed to differ, and that's fair enough.
A few words of final 'disagreement' with recent posts, and that'll be my last word.
I'm no police hater. I just want them to do the job they're paid to do. Bad policing ruins lives, and drives a wedge between the police and the policed, making it harder for good police to do their jobs. I think there's a lot less bad policing now than there was in the good old days, when all too many policemen used to exploit their uniform to indulge a taste for racism and homophobia on a routine basis - but only because people protested, and stopped it happening. Good police - and good policing - are an absolute essential to any healthy society. Bad policing is at least as toxic as crime.
I must say I am impressed how much detailed knowledge you have of an event at which you were not actually present
I don't have, or ever claimed, 'detailed knowledge'. But if my daughter tells me the bookcase came down as a result of the police's actions, I believe her.
BUT if I came home and told my mother seven cops were called she wouldn't be so gullible to believe that we were gentle 16 year olds behaving ourselves.
The OP made out like her daughter had gone to nothing worse than a scrabble evening and then admitted she knew alcohol and probably drugs were there. So I'm guessing as the mom has a tendency to leave minor details out so probably does the daughter. And those fruity drinks contain high alcohol levels.
If you allow your kids to go to a party with drugs and alcohol, don't be surprised if 7 cops turn up when it gets out of hand and blame the cops. Get real. That's my point.
Show me where I said anything about scrabble. I never 'admitted' I knew alcohol and even possibly 'drugs' - ie, a bit of cannabis - would be there. I took it as read at all times that drink, and more than likely a bit of spliff, for those who indulge in such things, would be involved. I never suggested otherwise. But I don't 'admit' it. There's nothing to 'admit'. That's what 16 year old's parties are like these days. I allow my kids to go to such parties, because if I didn't, they wouldn't go to parties, period. And also because right about now is the time I would expect her to be trying stuff out. She's 16, not 12. She's an adult, or near as dammit; this is what adults do. Frankly, I'm not sure I'm the one around here who is having problems with grasping reality.
And you can sneer at my gullibility all you like: I know my daughter, and I know that the story she told me is, in all essentials, true. You may call that gullibility; I call it a sign of a good and honest parent/daughter relationship that I have been at pains to maintain. Perhaps you think I should, as an earlier poster cited, 'treat her like a 10 year old', or ban her from parties where her friends and peers will be having a good time and learning the basics of adulthood. I don't.
When cops bully people - and are allowed to get away with bullying people - it's a recipe for disaster: for the people bullied, for the police themselves, and for society at large. The police do a tough enough job, without building up resentment among the people they have to police. I applaud the police for what they do. I wouldn't want to have to do it. But they have chosen to do it, they get paid to do it, they should do it and do it properly, and not do something else altogether.
As I say, that's me done. I've said my say; others have said theirs; I doubt we're going to see eye to eye on this one. And I have work to do.
