Britain’s Angriest Cyclist

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Binky

Über Member
I still can't fathom what Vine was supposed to have done wrong. At the start of the vid the shouty cyclist is a good bus-length behind him.

It's difficult to see in the video but I don't think Vine did anything that justified the sustained abuse he got.
I'll add I'm definitely not fan of Vine, he clearly posts content for clicks and usually makes situations worse in doing so. In this case, I'd say the other cyclist was way more out of order.
 
Location
Widnes
It's difficult to see in the video but I don't think Vine did anything that justified the sustained abuse he got.
I'll add I'm definitely not fan of Vine, he clearly posts content for clicks and usually makes situations worse in doing so. In this case, I'd say the other cyclist was way more out of order.

Thing is - at least to me - that he seems to genuinely believe that he is doing this for the good of Mankind and all Creation

The level of belief in his Moral Correctness seem to me to come across loud and clear

OK - he does occasionally admit to being in the wrong a bit - like here - but the rightness of his Crusade is just enhanced by this


I do have a habit of just taking a dislike to a few people - and he is just one of them
so I am probably just looking for things to disklike about him

or - more accurately - his public image and activities
 

nogoodnamesleft

Active Member
Thing is - at least to me - that he seems to genuinely believe that he is doing this for the good of Mankind and all Creation

The level of belief in his Moral Correctness seem to me to come across loud and clear

OK - he does occasionally admit to being in the wrong a bit - like here - but the rightness of his Crusade is just enhanced by this
Personal belief is that one way to make cycling safer for everybody is getting more cyclists on the streets.Having somebody like Vine who seems dedicated to convincing all potential cyclists how dangerous it is "out there", how it's an unending "life in your hands" avoiding drivers with no purpose beyond hitting you, hardly encourages anybody.

Whilst at the same time his frequently contrived "events" do nothing to make drivers reflect on how vulnerable cyclists are, it just gets their backs-up and contributes to the "us and them" situation battling for space on the roads.

So to me the net result of his "contributions" is to make things harder for cyclists.
 
Location
Widnes
Personal belief is that one way to make cycling safer for everybody is getting more cyclists on the streets.Having somebody like Vine who seems dedicated to convincing all potential cyclists how dangerous it is "out there", how it's an unending "life in your hands" avoiding drivers with no purpose beyond hitting you, hardly encourages anybody.

Whilst at the same time his frequently contrived "events" do nothing to make drivers reflect on how vulnerable cyclists are, it just gets their backs-up and contributes to the "us and them" situation battling for space on the roads.

So to me the net result of his "contributions" is to make things harder for cyclists.

I agree

You either get put in the "nutter on bikes wearing all black and a mask

or if you wear hi-vis and a helmet, then they think "another prat like that Vine character"

people do like to put other people in boxes - like BMW drivers and "white van man"
 

nogoodnamesleft

Active Member
Also I suppose whilst much of my cycling in rural lanes, I've still done a good distance in towns and cities and never had enough of an incident to spoil my ride. Occasional swerve to avoid a car door being opened without looking (when the swerve is an automatic reaction as I'm far enough out anyway). Be aware of Vine and you'd think life on a bike is a perpetual nightmare.

Does make me wonder if some do "attract" these incidents or maybe cynic in me thinks you don't become a high profile "celebrity" attracting click counts with lots of zeros before the decimal point showing videos of pleasant considerate rides without harsh words or having anything to avoid.
 

Binky

Über Member
Also I suppose whilst much of my cycling in rural lanes, I've still done a good distance in towns and cities and never had enough of an incident to spoil my ride. Occasional swerve to avoid a car door being opened without looking (when the swerve is an automatic reaction as I'm far enough out anyway). Be aware of Vine and you'd think life on a bike is a perpetual nightmare.

Does make me wonder if some do "attract" these incidents or maybe cynic in me thinks you don't become a high profile "celebrity" attracting click counts with lots of zeros before the decimal point showing videos of pleasant considerate rides without harsh words or having anything to avoid.

Have you never been close passed by a vehicle? I'm not sure if I'd say they ruined my ride but I've had so many dangerous close passes over the last few years or so. On main roads and rural back lanes alike.
However, rather than go down the Vine route of confronting driver to make a bad situation worse, I record rides and send in any close passes etc to the police and let them deal with it.
 

nogoodnamesleft

Active Member
Have you never been close passed by a vehicle? I'm not sure if I'd say they ruined my ride but I've had so many dangerous close passes over the last few years or so. On main roads and rural back lanes alike.
However, rather than go down the Vine route of confronting driver to make a bad situation worse, I record rides and send in any close passes etc to the police and let them deal with it.
Many times. Really nasty ones are generally couriers and I take the view the underlying issue is the pressure on drivers from the company seeking ever more deliveries in ever less time - so on occasions I'll call the company concerned (or depot) and highlight the issue and have had some very positive reactions from managers. One courier company depot manager recognised the issue and decided he'd raise the importance of safe driving round cyclists at their next weekly driver meeting.

Correct positioning yourself on the road does make a massive difference in reducing close passes. I wonder if people recently (re)starting cycling might be more nervous about traffic and that discourages them to hug the kerb to "stay out of the way" rather than position further out to avoid. And Vine repeatedly pushing how dangerous it is cycling our roads is only going to make nervous cyclists ever more worried.
 

Binky

Über Member
As it happens I find most couriers good, I suspect they realise a report to their company or the police could result in them potentially losing their job.
Worst by far for me are tractors and the general public in their cars. Couriers and lorries usually very good.
 
Location
Widnes
Also I suppose whilst much of my cycling in rural lanes, I've still done a good distance in towns and cities and never had enough of an incident to spoil my ride. Occasional swerve to avoid a car door being opened without looking (when the swerve is an automatic reaction as I'm far enough out anyway). Be aware of Vine and you'd think life on a bike is a perpetual nightmare.

Does make me wonder if some do "attract" these incidents or maybe cynic in me thinks you don't become a high profile "celebrity" attracting click counts with lots of zeros before the decimal point showing videos of pleasant considerate rides without harsh words or having anything to avoid.

Yup
my main annoyance of a person walking along and not reacting when I ring my bell or slow down and say "excuse me"
then says sorry and move out of the way

would probably generate somewhat fewer views

I do suspect that a lot of people who view his videos - and other such people - do so in order to feel angry and justify their anger
 

Gillstay

Veteran
I once came across Mr Vine doing a long piece to camera on the street in Brighton and as our paths crossed I said `morning Jeremy'.

Then left feeling very pleased hearing the director say, `Okay lets do that again'.
 
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