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lukesdad

lukesdad

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rowan 46 said:
I would be very surprised if the reasons that people gave for not cycling was a heavy uncomfortable bike. My guess is that it is more to do with traffic, time, comfort and perceived safety than anything else at least that's what most of my friends say that and the fact they drive which is the most common reason given
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I think most of your friends tell porkies ! What they really mean is they re just plain lazy. :biggrin:
 
lukesdad

lukesdad

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Angelfishsolo said:
What an Elitist aim :biggrin:
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I thought you d hopped it ! :whistle:
 
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rowan 46

rowan 46

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Location
birmingham
NeilEB said:
Actually, about 8 years ago I bought a BSO online (think it was £100).

Hated it so much that I took it out a few times and then it rusted in a shed. Think it got chucked when my parents moved house.

The steering was awful, saddle kept coming loose, brakes were almost non-existant.

Sure, some of it would have been my fault during construction, but the point is, it didn't behave as it should have done, so it put me off cycling for a while
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It may be true for you but for most people that doesn't appear to be the case, Here is a link to a piece summarizing surveys on why people don't cycle. I have only scanned it and can only see one survey where the question about equipment was asked but even on this survey it came well down the field as an answer. http://can.org.nz/system/files/Why dont people walk and cycle.pdf
 
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rowan 46 said:
It may be true for you but for most people that doesn't appear to be the case, Here is a link to a piece summarizing surveys on why people don't cycle. I have only scanned it and can only see one survey where the question about equipment was asked but even on this survey it came well down the field as an answer. http://can.org.nz/sy...and%20cycle.pdf
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But glancing at that report, the questions seemed to be targetted at the general population, looking at their daily commute.

My example was a real example of someone who wanted to cycle, bought a bike and then gave up.

If a survey was done on people who had bought a bike in the last year, and no longer use it, I wonder what the response would be then?
 
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rowan 46

rowan 46

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NeilEB said:
But glancing at that report, the questions seemed to be targetted at the general population, looking at their daily commute.

My example was a real example of someone who wanted to cycle, bought a bike and then gave up.

If a survey was done on people who had bought a bike in the last year, and no longer use it, I wonder what the response would be then?
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there are a couple of surveys done by ex cyclists
 
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Angelfishsolo

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Cwmbach, South Wales
rowan 46 said:
there are a couple of surveys done by ex cyclists
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The charity I was involved in targeted those who did not exercise or had not for a long time. Many of them had said they had ridden BSO's but hated it. Once they found out what riding am inexpensive bike Trek Hybrid, Kona Fire Mountain, even a Dahon folding bike they loved it. I saw the same thing over a three year period across three area of my County. The reported results from all other sections of the group were the same.
 
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rowan 46

rowan 46

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Location
birmingham
Angelfishsolo said:
The charity I was involved in targeted those who did not exercise or had not for a long time. Many of them had said they had ridden BSO's but hated it. Once they found out what riding am inexpensive bike Trek Hybrid, Kona Fire Mountain, even a Dahon folding bike they loved it. I saw the same thing over a three year period across three area of my County. The reported results from all other sections of the group were the same.
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I don't dispute your experience I would however like to see your figures my experience is that weather and convenience is cited by my friends, they just don't believe that cycling is more convenient in a city than motoring.
 
wiggydiggy

wiggydiggy

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apollo179 said:
Ha Ha.
I was just trying to convey the message that for the furtherance of a decent society we all have a responsibility to speak up in the furtherance of good.
Wasnt it edmoind burke that said all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Anyway it seems im in a minority so im taking your advice and beating a hasty retreat.
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Actually sorry that was uncalled for of me, carry on....
 
apollo179

apollo179

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Neil puts forward a convincing arguement against bsos.
If we accept the worthlessness of bsos then assuming a minimum price associated with the production , marketing etc etc of a non bso spec product - what price is the cheapest non bso adult bike available.
I have previously on another topic suggested the Muddyfox Hornet 26 inch Mountain Bike for £79.99 only to have it universally slated as a cheap and nasty bso.

So what price a non bso adult bike.
In effect, in the combined wisdom of this forums glitterati what is the minimum you need to spend to buy acceptable hardware , ignoring for the sake of argument buying 2nd hand.
 
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4F

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Location
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apollo179 said:
Neil puts forward a convincing arguement against bsos.
If we accept the worthlessness of bsos then assuming a minimum price associated with the production , marketing etc etc of a non bso spec product - what price is the cheapest non bso adult bike available.
I have previously on another topic suggested the Muddyfox Hornet 26 inch Mountain Bike for £79.99 only to have it universally slated as a cheap and nasty bso.

So what price a non bso adult bike.
In effect, in the combined wisdom of this forums glitterati what is the minimum you need to spend to buy acceptable hardware , ignoring for the sake of argument buying 2nd hand.
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For me anything from Tesco's, Asda, Toys R Us and a catalogue company is a BSO.
 
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